Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

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  1. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't the other female who had been kidnapped from her home, held, and assaulted also dropped off by her kidnapper miles away from her home? I cant recall her name at the moment but it was the case where the majority believed it was all a hoax.

    I am sure there have been other kidnapping cases where the victim wasn't murdered and may have been let go later on.

    IMO
     
  2. ZoriahNZ

    ZoriahNZ Well-Known Member

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    This part I can clear up. If you use google maps to 'stand' on that particular overpass, there is a large highway sign visible saying "Redding, North" on one side and a large sign saying "Sacramento" pointing in the opposite direction on the other side.
     
  3. Inthedetails

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    I don't know what LE is implying, but I know from my personal experience that my memory of details before traumatic events in my life is acute. I remember minor details of what I was doing the day of 9/11, the day each of my parents died, the night I was in a bad car accident, the day some dramatic things happened in the neighborhood, etc. Before each of these events, my day was so ordinary, but I recall the details.

    Not that it means anything, I'm just thinking aloud.

    jmo
     
  4. ZoriahNZ

    ZoriahNZ Well-Known Member

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    With regard to the other CA case which turned out to not be a hoax. Wow, no wonder LE is being cagey about this one after Vallejo police really screwed up theirs. What a bizarre case. Note the boyfriend was also drugged, bound and assaulted in the home. Also, Huskins was sexually assaulted multiple times (there is video evidence of this) and dropped off only 2 days later.

    The most crazy part is the perpetrator contacting a journalist twice via email to protest that Huskins was telling the truth and being mistreated by police.

    http://fox8.com/2015/07/14/not-a-hoax-after-all-bizarre-twist-in-kidnapping-case/

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-california-couple-kidnapping-20170316-story.html
     
  5. gitana1

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    And if they saw a van stopped on the road a year ago, but didn't think much of it, too late. No way will they NOW remember. This seems ridiculous.
     
  6. gitana1

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    I always took that to mean that the act of branding another human is a message of possession or property in and of itself. Or of degradation.

    I realize that at a certain point we have to keep coming up with so many explanations to make the inconsistencies fit a kidnapping scenario. However, I never believed the husband's story that he found the phone in that condition and took a picture of it before picking it up.

    I think there were issues in that marriage and I think that he was trying to catch her doing something so he immediately scrolled through that phone before he did anything else.
     
  7. Dushi

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    As someone mentioned up thread
    I don't recall KP ever saying he called his wife's phone
    He said he used find my phone or whatever

    I would absolutely call first even though i live in a location with spotty service, I would call first.

    Anyone else?
     
  8. natsound

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    He was talking about it being a message as opposed to a symbol, so he must have been talking about the brand itself.
     
  9. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    The VI said he called her phone and IIRC Matt Gutman confirmed that detail had been cut from the 20/20 interview for time: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ng-2-November-2016-17&p=12989312#post12989312
     
  10. Dushi

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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Wth. Who carries around a brand like that?

    Besides ransom cases the only other kidnapping where a person is let go alive, involve domestic violence hostage situations or sexual assault kidnappings. None of that applied here.

    Yes, the Denise Huskins kidnapping case occurred and it was bizarre. It involved a crazy person who fancied himself some underworld character.

    However, that case involved a ransom demand. AND sexual assault.

    And just because there was one case that involved a kidnapping which most thought was a hoax but wasn't, doesn't mean a rule is created that we can logically apply to this one.

    The odds of two cases involving bizarre facts, that people thought got were hoaxes but weren't, both within months of each other in the same state? I wouldn't take that bet.
     
  12. Cannonball3804

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    Can someone clarify about the phone being shut off? I’m confused about that but have only read bits and pieces that people have commented on. How could he call or track her if her phone was shut off at noon? Do they mean shut off by the phone company for non payment, meaning she could still use it with WiFi, or she powered it off?
     
  14. gitana1

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    The act of branding is a message. It sends a message. It doesn't matter what the brand itself reflects. The message is you're owned.
     
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    If anything, I think the video supports Sherri's abduction story.
     
  17. gitana1

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    I always took that to mean that after noon, there was no one activity form of the phone. Meaning no texts and no calls.
     
  18. gitana1

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    Well it supports her account of her release at least. Partially. IMO Nothing in the video contradicts what she purportedly stated occurred when she was released.

    That being said, the release of that video isn't going to "jog" anyone's memory. How could it?
     
  19. cattlekate

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    Did someone do a google earth map of the video showing Sherri running to the front of the JW Kingdom Hall, and then running back? A map which includes the on ramp and side streets?
     
  20. CoolJ

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    Is it true that Gutman is personal friends with the Papinis?
     
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