CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #3

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  1. 661 Rider

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    Theory...

    These remains UPDATE: Human remains discovered in Tick Fire area were found last year, easily accessible and close by to both the crime scene, and the suspect's home at the time of the murder. It took until February or so of this year to get evidence from the remains that could link the suspect to the crime, which is what triggered his arrest for basically nothing right about that time (February) - hence, while in custody they were able to obtain his DNA; which his attorney likely blocked previously as he was only a 'person of interest' and not a suspect. Once matched, along with whatever info the S.D. has that we don't know about = arrested and charged.
     


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    *Accidental double post.
     
  3. 661 Rider

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    I believe he made a court appearance on Friday, but can't seem to find any news or updates on the case. Anybody know anything?
     
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  4. TheMadScientist

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    661 Rider....Because the court has limited the total amount of seats for people wishing to enter, being the first one into the court (that would be me) becomes very important. Linda Cierzan, Andrea Peck & husband sat in front of me. I didn't recognize on the other side of the gallery (until we all left) was Chuck Cierzan & step sister of Daniel was Tabitha Smith. The original "Paid Lawyer" is no longer being paid for, now is a public defender. The D.A. is from downtown Los Angeles Major Crimes division. She just turned over all of the discovery for the case, so the PD had not seen any of the documents. They pushed this out to November 20th for the next hearing
     
  5. 661 Rider

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    Downgrading to a public defender is a bit of a 'tell'. Why throw away money on an attorney for what will ultimately be an easy win for the D.A.; that is my thinking anyway. How did the defendant look?
     
  6. TheMadScientist

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    Daniel hasn't missed a meal comparing to other photos seen. There were words suggesting this will be a "jury trial". Those are NOT being heard yet since March, the courts are already setting the calendar to end this year on or about November 27th.

    For those that would like to follow additional information, enter
    LACOURT.ORG

    top of this page is a blue button "Divisions" where you hold the mouse cursor over this and click on "Criminal".

    Pull this screen down to near the bottom of the page, 3rd blue button on the left is "criminal case summary"

    you might have to click on "I agree" box

    Enter the Case #.....PA095020
     
  7. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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  8. 661 Rider

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    Thanks TMS. 'Not missing a meal'... another indicator.
     
  9. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Yes! Just saw the nephew has been arrested finally, woohoo! Off to read up now!

    Eta thank u mad scientist for your continued efforts to find Will.
     
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    Next appearance is this Friday, you heading down TMS? If... big if... I go, what time would you advise I get there? Is it a first come first serve type of deal, or restricted to only interested/involved parties?
     
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  11. TheMadScientist

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    661 Rider, I will be there for sure. Court states the front doors open at 8:00 am, but it happens at 8:15 am. Dept. "S" never opens at 8:30 as advertised, BUT, I don't want to miss a seat.....SO, I'm cheap and park north of Maclay on 3rd and I believe the east side has Friday street sweeping so I get there around 7:45 am. Mask is necessary, belts removed before scanner, all coins, keys out of pockets in a dish. Hallway benches are marked where to sit along with seats inside. I will try to sit in the middle or left side to see detained suspects in the cage on the right. I'm usually the first 5 in the court. Hope to see you...expect very little to happen as the Public Defender just got the discovery materials on 9-25-2020.
     
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  12. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Just catching up in here !!
    So glad he was finally arrested.
    I know LE has to get their ducks in a row to be sure, so fingers crossed that our waiting was worth it.

    Thank you @TheMadScientist for always being there for Will and keeping us updated.
     
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  13. 661 Rider

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    Unfortunately my schedule won't allow me to be there, if you don't mind give us a recap when it's convenient. ;)
     
  14. TheMadScientist

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    12 Noon, back at home from Court. Myself, 2 other females from Santa Clarita were there, Linda, Andrea/husband, Chuck & Tabitha/step sister of Daniel were there. Because our gallery took up more than half of all allowable seats, we were all asked to stay in the hallway until the other cases were heard. Once we were called in, Daniel was brought into the suspect cage & needed to make his plea "NOT guilty". Pre-trial was announced to be Jan. 21, 2021, Dept "G" on the 3rd floor which should be Judge Walgren and D.A. asked this Judge to issue a demand for Chuck Cierzan to be at this hearing as he might be called to testify, he was in this court and said he would be. 661 Rider and any other citizen thinking they might want to attend, this should show enough of the PEOPLE'S CASE to forge forward to the actual trial.
     
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    In 2 days Jan. 21, 2021, this case is expected to have the Pre-trial hearing where the D.A. puts forward most of their case to show there is enough evidence to go forward....I plan to be there for this....BUT, today I went for a different case in a different courtroom. I was the only person in the gallery and the bailiff reminded me that since Nov. 30th, no family, no one but the attorney / suspect are allowed in court...I was politely asked to leave....Since I know that 5 Cierzan Family members have been at court, 2 other SCV members have been to court, I plan to be there but know that I might be asked to leave...
     
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    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    Thanks for updating us, TMS !
    Justice for Will !!!!!
     
  18. TheMadScientist

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    Thursday Jan. 21, 2021, "The Pre-trial", I was 4th in line to enter the courthouse, Chuck Cierzan was approx. 14th in line along with Tabitha Smith (Daniel's step-sister). Linda, Andrea Peck & husband were not in line as these new rules do not allow family of a case to enter the individual courtroom. Tabitha Smith was asked to leave and not enter the courthouse and so were 2 SCV people from the community asked to leave. Yes, I entered the courthouse but knew I would not be allowed into the courtroom, so I sat in the hallway to observe. Chuck had what I believe was a private attorney & not a public defender that told him NOT TO TALK TO ANYONE IN THE HALLWAY. When Chuck was told to enter the courtroom for his testimony, he was in for only 3-4 minutes. A short time later, the Major Crimes D.A. left the courtroom and I was NOT able to find out any details from the hearing....sorry, more of our Constitutional Freedoms REMOVED.
     
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    thanks for attending
     
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    TMS or others, do you know of any updates on this since 1/21? I checked lacourt.org but it only shows case is pending. I have not seen any news coverage and I am curious if the nephew was released? Is a new trial date set?
     
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