California Dept. of Mental Health Illegally Releases 17 Thousand Sex Offenders

Discussion in 'A CALL TO ACTION! Calif. DMH Illegally Releases 17' started by Tricia, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. pip

    pip New Member

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    Amen sister. They are just going to dump them out in the East Bay and lets just watch and see how fast the crime rates will rise. Many will be back in prison sooner than 6 months is my guess.
    It is a ridiculous idea as a solution to California's budget crisis. Let's dump them all in Sacramento so Arnold can deal with them personally. And just how many violent offenders will be released under our noses? Will we EVER know the truth? It will be revealed one by one as they reoffend and the media reveals they were released as part of the Save California scam and have yet violently offended again!
    Government really sucks.
     


  2. songline

    songline New Member

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    I saw this thread earlier in the day and I read some, then I got so upset I had to leave it.
    I try to continue to read and I get angry.
    I am not digesting this even though I know that mental hospitals have opened their doors and let mentally ill people move right into the street.
    These 17,000 people are dangerous...Why Are we going to court with JC Dugards kidnapper, Shanyas Murderer. WHY???
    So that a year later they get to walk????
    I am too angry to post. I will come back to this thread this is NOT OK WITH ME AT ALL....:furious::furious::furious:

    But I have said so many times, there is a court in the USA but there is no justice. even judges are joke. :(
     
  3. songline

    songline New Member

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    This thread is getting increasingly difficult for me.
    I posted something on the PP.
    I cant be here, I will brake my computer and I am unemployed
    so I cant just run out and get another one.....
    I get very upset when people that should do the right thing DONT.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5031873&postcount=1153"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
     
  4. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    Have you ever seen so much Blah, Blah, Blah in your life? The Governator who was elected during a very pricey special election to oust Gray Davis (who was blamed for the recession) has put the state even further into debt. He could just make a couple movies and use the proceeds to balance the budget (J/K) - but no instead he is letting prisoners go early and closing state offices 3 times a month...

    While the state has no money it has a beautiful new internet site that has links to almost every single state office and official.


    http://www.ca.gov/Tourism.html

    http://www.ca.gov/HomeFamily.html

    http://gov.ca.gov/interact#contact

    Governor's Office:
    Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
    State Capitol Building
    Sacramento, CA 95814
    Phone: 916-445-2841
    Fax: 916-558-3160 ( new number )

    The following gives you a nice little form all you have to do is fill in the blanks and write your message..

    also contains a lovely bio page of Governator Schwarzenegger

    and one for his lovely wife..

    The California Roster:

    http://ag.ca.gov/resources.php

    http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/asm/ab_0451-0500/ab_488_bill_20040924_chaptered.html

    I hope you find some thing here to be useful

     
  5. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    OK I fibbed, I looked. The numbers of unk addy's in So CA is appalling. Why, why, why are there so many of these sex offenders who don't have to list an address?

    I looked up a man I have known for years, who did a really stupid thing. He went to a hotel room with two "young women"- twice. And they didn't play video games. He had met them on-line.

    This man was a professional, he has 3 kids (they were teens at the time) - a good wife, a really good career - he was feeling all the success he had worked years to achieve and he had earned the hard way. He tossed it all away for two afternoons, with two girls he thought were 18.

    The girls admitted to lying about their age, they admitted to asking him to meet up before he did, one of them admitted to asking him because she was angry with her parents for grounding her. Both girls were 16. (I'm not making excuses these were the facts from trial.)

    One of the girls had the distinction of being the daughter of the county sheriff - because of this, they didn't just throw the book at him, they dropped the library on him. They pressed charges for every act - there was no plea bargaining.

    I have known this man for over 20 years, (our kids grew up together) if I didn't know his name and address I wouldn't have known him at all. He should use himself as the poster child for men in their 40's who decide they have earned a little sumpthin ~ sumpthin on the side. He looks like he's 70 years old. He looks like a shell of the man I have known for so long - If men (and women) only thought for a second, about what might happen, how many lives might be ruined for a couple hours of "fun and games" on the side. If they looked at the destruction - their selfish acts would cause their family. Maybe they would reconsider going there.
     
  6. Trino

    Trino Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post, LCoastMom.

    Aside from embarrassment, in cases such as you mentioned there is loss of income to the family, perhaps loss of a home, loss of the ability to care for one's children. Parents buy insurance in case one of them dies, but there's no insurance if a parent is in jail.
     
  7. orb4me

    orb4me Former Member

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    My post got lost, or something.

    Did the Govenor actually sign his name to all 17,000 release forms? Isnt that the law? If they were not suppose to be released why were they not picked back up?

    I checked in this little town that I am now living through a web site called family watch dog. and oh myyyyyyyyyy no sex offenders!!!!! sex offenders are blue, criminals red, other yellow. ok so just because I clicked on a red............sex offender that had not registered. several were like that. a couple of yellow were old men that were sex offenders that had not registered. Im to old to start screaming up and down the street. I have met the sheriff, and he is nice man. I have met the zoning board man, he is nice man, but where do I start????

    I forgot to mention::::this town did not get off their collective b...ts to help volunters look for the missing baby a few months ago, so I dont expect any help.
     
  8. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    Thank you. You are so right...

    It was a truly eye opening experience. It is amazing how fast a man can go from being 'the go to guy', to being - Who? You learn real fast who your true friends are...

    FamilyWatchDog is an excellent site.

    I wish I or anyone - knew the answer to your question... I keep thinking there must be an answer here, there must be something we can do. If there is I haven't found it.

    One of the things we need is a loud voice so people understand what we are living with. When digging around looking for anything on the Shantina Smiley and Az Carter case in WA - there were a couple RSO's living near by where she was last seen.. I posted the info and was "informed" by another member 1 of the men is not a convicted SO. Well that's odd, why is his name and photo on a list of the state's 2nd & 3rd degree RSO's??? And why was his conviction and release date one and the same? What; when you kidnap your 17 y.o. neighbor for the purpose of forcing yourself on her, time served is good enough??

    When are people going to understand these offenders are hard wired to do what they do? At this time there is no known cure... The numbers of them who look like a grandpa or a preacher is frightening too. (Which undoubtedly many are either or both)

    How about a tattoo in neon orange or green of RSO across their forehead (different colors for different crimes...) and an embedded tracking device that alerts LE when they enter a forbidden zone near schools, parks, sch bus stops, arcades, swimming pools - anywhere children are likely to be. Oh yeah, have it give a progressively stronger shock - the longer they are in the area - Cops just need to find the creep laid on the ground.... I have no sympathy for people who hurt kids or for those who rape or molest anyone...
     
  9. Whisperer

    Whisperer Well-Known Member

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    The general public has a blind eye to the mental health system and to the prisons. They do not want to know about it. They close their eyes real tight and hope the prisons and institutions are not anywhere near where they live. Why do you think they are usually so far out of the way?

    I tried and so have a few and we have paid the price for doing so. There are so many bleeding hearts in the system who have no accountability whatsoever, and it does no good to complain because our laws back up the bleeding hearts every time.

    To try to answer your question, the mental health tag on a prisoner used to give them less time to serve or an earlier parole. The DMH does not have to allow them to parole. They can write a brief sentence (done once a year) as to why they should not parole. They usually refuse to do this. In fact I have never seen them do this. Their reasoning was he has a right to parole and they would stand by that. This was an extremely frustrating process to watch. I firmly believe they parole these people because DMH is afraid of the legal process and they may get hauled into court and have to defend their writing and they fear the inmate themselves. NO accountability within the system. I have seen Corrections try but DMH type people will not be cornered into giving a prediction of the inmates chances of repeating the crime. DMH rules in this respect due to the mental health tag on the inmate. I just don't know how to get the word out to the public or convince people that are not interested to be involved

    Within the prison system, many inmates seek out a mental health diagnosis and it is easy to get. Depression, drugs, and alcohol all count.
     
  10. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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    FWIW, I agree with whomever posted the class action lawsuit idea. If a law is being broken by the State of CA, then someone(s) should sue them. Problem is, you'd probably never get an attorney who would handle it, because isn't the State of CA broke? Attorney's tend to like to get paid. After all, it is all about money. And that money comes from taxpayers and if there is not enough money to enforce the laws as they are written, then taxes need to be raised, or other services need to be cut, but no one wants that either. There really needs to be some kind of program put together where the convicts pay their own way. They work and produce/manufacture something, sell it and then have to pay for whatever needs the laws require they have. Aren't there some states that have that sort of program?
     
  11. Paschein

    Paschein Verified Insider

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    Just read through this thread and was wondering if anyone in CA has brought about any suits against the MHD or if there has been any action (protests, media blitz, etc) since this thread started?
     
  13. nomoresorrow

    nomoresorrow Well-Known Member

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    Hi orb, the following article gives a pretty good account of the history (how it came to be...), the reasoning behind it ($$$), reactions to and issues resulting from it.
    http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_14794424?nclick_check=1

    I'm very familiar with Family Watchdog and I completely understand your frustration. Nothing pees me off more than the words "offender cannot be found", "unmappable", and "no picture available." URGHHHH!! I wish I had the $$$ to go and locate these &%$#@& and haul their azzes in myself!

    MOO ~
     
  14. suzyq211

    suzyq211 Someone knows what happened to Robert Harrod!

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    I wish I could join you!!!!!!! >:-(
     
  15. Todd Picuyane

    Todd Picuyane New Member

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    By the way, in California, addresses of all registered sex offenders in your neighborhood or zip code can be obtained at the police or sheriff station of the offender's jurisdiction. Even if all you have is a zip code, their full address and additional information is provided at the station. So if you are in California, don't just look at the Internet; also visit your LE place to get the rest of the story.
     
  16. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    CB I have lived in So CA most of my life, moving away 6 years ago and returning mid May 2010. When I bring up this subject, people look at me as if I have grown an extra head or something - either they don't want to hear it or they don't believe it.

    Another problem I have been tracking is the sex abuse involving the Catholic Church - how is it possible there is not enough evidence to bring the Upper Echelon into court to answer for their complicity. Moving accused priests around, without any attempt to do the right thing and make them answer for their crimes - paying off anyone they could in an attempt to make the whole ugly business go away. And it looks like they may win. The Archdiocese in Los Angeles - according to the LA County DA's office there is not enough evidence - DA: Insufficient evidence found to charge cardinal!

    http://www.snapnetwork.org/snap_statements/2010_statements/060210_da_says_no_charges_yet_vs_la_archdiocese_clergy_sex_victims_respond.htm

    So they have come up with their own team to come to the defense when the abuse is reported :

    http://archdiocese.la/protecting/response.html

    GREAT! (not!)
     
  17. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    80 Police Officers were pink slipped in Oakland yesterday, when the union and the city could not come to a contract agreement.

    Chief of Police Anthony Batts said there will be a variety of services the people of Oakland have come to expect that will no longer be handled by the PD or will be handled via the internet with the victims filing an on-line report.

    One service he specified that will be dropped, is the on-line RSO and Sexual Predators list.

    With the in-flux of 17,000 new "members" I suspect Oakland will not be the only PD that no longer wants this responsibility.
     
  18. yzerman19wingnut

    yzerman19wingnut New Member

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    They truly set 17K of the nastiest gutter trash out on the streets to perp on people some more? What was the point of incarcerating them to begin with? I really don't know what to say. I pay attention to the news and had not heard about this.

    Man am I glad that they have a Castle Law in Ohio. If someone busts into my place I'm not asking any questions. Quick swift justice of the type they can't be released from. Let God sort them out.

    But yes I'll add this to my extensive list of why I will never move to California. Nice place to visit in some parts. But I will never live there.
     
  19. scaredtopost

    scaredtopost Well-Known Member

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    I was just informed that a sexual offender (who directly harmed a member of my family) has petitioned to have his sexual offender registration status suspended. It has been over ten years since he was released from prison. The incident occured in NC, where he still resides. Does anyone have any experience dealing with this? How do we ensure he does not win his petition? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to think that having his SO status revoked could possibly put another child in danger. Thanks in advance.
     
  20. SunnieRN

    SunnieRN Active Member

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    What a piece of back pedaling, say nothing junk!! These 3 documents need to be sent in email form to all CA newspapers and radio stations!! Please send it to people like Nancy Grace and Rush Limbaugh too!

    No problem, change the law to apply to all violent crimes. One problem solved!

    That pretty much covers them all I think.

    This is an awesome post!!!!! The shock level should start higer depending upon the type of crime and age of the victim. Also, this needs to be deeply imbedded and checked via phone on a daily basis.


    Scaredtopost, I have no good advice, but Iwill send up prayers for you and your family, get good alarm systems, take self defense classes and keep your children always in your site, If I could I would move and stay under the radar as much as possible!

    And, once more, why do criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens?
     

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