CAN we discuss crimewatch discrepancies please

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  1. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    Very few people learn Dutch though, even in Europe.
     


  2. Cappuccino

    Cappuccino Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't insinuating there was anything wrong with your education system. Its just that people generally don't get as much opportunity to hear a foreign language spoken by native speakers when they live on a different continent compared to those who share a land border, or a channel tunnel with the countries in question.

    America shares land borders with Canada and Mexico. Would the average American have trouble telling the difference between French and Spanish?
     
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    zwiebel New Member

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    I've spent quite a bit of time in the Netherlands and I can't really recall anyone ever speaking in Dutch to me. They really are a multilingual nation, I think. I do admire that. Only wish I had that talent too!
     
  4. Jmoose

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    The average American would not have a problem telling the difference between French and Spanish. I shouldn't speak for any other Americans, but I can tell the difference between German and Dutch, too.

    Did the witness say he or she thought the language they heard was German for certain? It sounds like that is what LE is focused on at the moment.
     
  5. Cappuccino

    Cappuccino Well-Known Member

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    I've only heard it said that the language was German. Its possible that the Dutch angle was assumed because the Netherlands was one of the countries which broadcast the new appeal for information.

    That could be for no other reason than the story is still bigger news in that country than elsewhere though.
     
  6. Jmoose

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    I don't know of any schools here that teach Dutch-but German is commonly taught, and I assume that once you've studied German, you probably wouldn't mistake it for any other. In any event, it looks like LE is focusing their attention in the direction of Germany at the moment. We'll see what they dig up over there.
     
  7. Cherwell

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    People are overthinking it, imo. It's one thing to identify Dutch or German if you are hearing it directly (say in a film or a TV documentary) or if you are being addressed, but if you are just overhearing a snatch of colloquial conversation between other individuals on the street, not always so easy to be sure.
     
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    goldengirl57 New Member

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    Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things whether it was dutch or german. These people were checked way back in 2007 i remember it being talked about.

    The thing is anyway I have dutch and german friends, and they only ever speak English to me lol, mind you i lived in germany for 3 years and yes there is a difference in german and dutch you can tell it. IMHO.

    This is a useful aerial photo of the area. As you can see why would an abductor walk towards the middle of praia de luz or even the beach, when the are very very close to the Lagos road.

    http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/aerialmw.jpg
     
  9. For The Kids

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    They missed out that after that the hotel manager asked them not to leave the children alone again and even offered them a babysitter that night for which they refused so not only did they not want there kids with them that night they didn't want any one else to be there to protect them either : (
     
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    His wife Kate said: "It doesn't matter how much heartache we put ourselves through, so long as we get the result that we need."

    From the link.

    Is it just me... Or do all of her comments always seem self serving? Never any concern about what her daughter experienced...is experiencing. It's as if she always knew her daughter was dead and exactly how she died. All IMO


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  11. For The Kids

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    It depends on who supposedly heard these "loud voices" on whether its even true to be honest IMO
     
  12. Jmoose

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    Sorry about your taxes-I often feel this way, too! You have to hope that the police are just putting some of this stuff out there to give someone a false sense of security (maybe).
     
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    I have never been completely sure of who went where and when did they do it, Approximately what time did each parent get up from the table, and which apartments did they check on? Did parent X check on his/her own children, or on the kids of parent Y or parent Z? Did they just listen at each apartment, or did they look in, and if they looked in, did they see each and every child? Was Madeleine actually seen several times between 8:30-10?

    I've read several timelines, and they don't quite line up in every case. And at what time did someone ring LE? 10:40 seems very late.
     
  15. blefuscu

    blefuscu Bsc (hons) Criminology

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    Hasn't the timeline that the Tapas 9 given been discredited and a moe realistic timeline been drawn up by Scotland Yard?
     
  16. Cherwell

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    I was hoping that that was what we were going to be told, but it seems that it only amounts to the elimination of the Tanner sighting.
     
  17. SapphireSteel

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    No, she did not physically search, or call Madeleine's name, once.

    This might help - defensive, much? :banghead:

    The McCanns Did Not Physically Search for Madeleine - YouTube
     
  18. SapphireSteel

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    What we've got to remember is the place was a resort.

    It had people from everywhere staying there, almost literally, then you've got the town beyond.

    Of course there are going to be sightings of "strange" men hanging around...it's a resort!!!! I'd say there were more than a few strangers there. :banghead:

    It is clear that they are trying to eliminate certain individuals, brown haired, black haired, and fair haired. Male individuals.

    The presence of these as yet unidentified men in a resort in PDL is not exactly startling to me.

    It is quite possible these guys came and went from the resort without ever hearing the name Madeleine McCann, or knowing they are in the frame. Now, hopefully with the multilingual coverage, those guys will realise they're being looked for, step up and eliminate or incriminate themselves.

    AR clearly says "these may be innocent sightings"...but these guys do need to be identified and investigated.

    If they were there innocently, a huge public appeal in those countries will find them.

    :cow:
     
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    Hi Zweibel, I wrote to say doesn't the e-fit photo of the man on the left look like Gerry McCann?

    Then I read again about the Irishman who saw the man walking with a child.

    We had a poster who worked at a bar in that area where the Irishman saw this man. She wrote a post saying a man came into her bar {not long after they discovered she was missing, so it was timely} and asked to speak to the owner, that his child was missing. He sat down and had a drink then left after talking to the owner. She later said it was Gerry who came into that bar as she recognized him on the news.

    I always thought her body was temporarily ditched in that little cemetery by the church {in that same area} and then moved later that night. IMO You know what I'm thinkin'!


    I just found this post written by Cappuccino: "True. And its a thing to bear in mind with the Smith sighting as well. Mr Smith said in his second statement that he was sure the man he saw was Gerry McCann when he saw Gerry on television carrying one of the twins. When he said it to the rest of the family, the only one who agreed was his wife.

    So that tells us that the man the Smith family saw bears some resemblance to GMcC but not necessarily that it was him".
    Post #848, 'Why Did Madeleine Go Missing'
     
  20. UKgirl

    UKgirl For you little sky.

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    NOt sure and it will need checking, but I remember something on the lines of them making a list on the back of madelines colouring book instead of searching?
     
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