Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #10

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    Google streetview shows this at the end of their street (about 4 houses down from the Liknes' home):

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    It's the Elbow River Pathway (iirc) that runs alongside the river.
     
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    full article:
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  5. sillybilly

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    REVISED TIMELINE DATED JULY 16, 2014

    SUMMARY OF ADDITIONS/CORRECTIONS INCLUDED IN THIS REVISION (in blue font):


    1960 added DG aliases
    1961 corrected Kathryn&#8217;s maiden name Prevost
    1973 DG&#8217;s parents bought the Airdrie property
    1980 DG attended Univ of Alberta (approx)
    1980 DG applied for his own SIN in his own name
    1988 charge of prohibited weapon dismissed
    1989 assault charge stayed
    1992 October charges listed in BC court registry
    1992 (correction re Can Test .. in charge of 30 not 15 employees
    1993 DG gets SIN and DL in the name of Matthew Hartley
    1998 October charges listed in BC court registry
    2000 DG released between June 19, 2000 and October 2000 after serving 1/6 of a 39 month sentence
    2005 March lawsuit, DG v. Ministry of National Revenue
    2006 FC said he carried gun because people wanted to hurt him
    2008 Corrected that Nathan O&#8217;Brien born 2008, not 2009
    2014 January FC released from prison
    June 30 CL arrival at L home
    July 2 LE says grandparents not considered suspects
    July 2 lights on in greenhouse, burning all day long
    July 7 DG&#8217;s parents&#8217; pastor says they are doing as well as can be expected
    July 13 The Liknes home was released as a crime scene
    July 13 homicide detectives conclude 3 family members murdered
    July 14 DG re-arrested early morning hours near his parents&#8217; farm in Airdrie
    July 14 LE presser re arrest and charges to be laid later
    July 14 DG formally charged
    July 16 second court appearance for DG
    Aug 14 third scheduled appearance for DG



    REVISED TIMELINE:

    1948 Alvin Cecil Liknes born (Alvin, AL)

    1960 Douglas Robert Garland born Jan 27 1960 (DG aka Douglas Garland, Matthew Kemper Hartley, Douglas John Garland)

    1961 Kathryn Faye Prevost born (Kathryn Liknes, Kathryn, KL, KFL)

    1973 DG&#8217;s parents bought the Airdrie property, 273149 RR 291, Airdrie, AB

    1980s Alvin involved in civil lawsuit(s) in 80s and 90s

    1980s exact dates unknown, DG studied science at the Univ of Alberta with plans to become a doctor. He left school without finishing a degree (apparently caught cheating, subsequently claimed he had a nervous breakdown)

    1980 DG applied for his own SIN in his own name

    1980 October 29 Head-on collision 6 km southeast of Cardston, AB claimed the lives of Jill Lorene Hartley and Matthew Kemper Hartley

    1988 charge of prohibited weapon dismissed against DG

    1989 assault charge stayed against DG

    1989 approx year Alvin and Kathryn married (Alvin previously m. to SB)

    1990s Alvin involved in civil lawsuit(s) in 80s and 90s

    1992 October 23 drug raid at Garland farm. LE found beakers, Bunsen burners and boxes of chemicals used in the manufacture of meth. Evidence was also located at a rented facility in Crossfield, AB. DG disappeared for 7 years after the raid and assumed the identity of Matthew Kemper Hartley.

    1992 October 23 &#8211; charges listed in BC court registry under file #42183-1-H (against Douglas ROBERT Garland):

    FDA - 39(1) Traffic in a controlled drug Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 353(1)(b) possessing automobile master key Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 351(1) Possess break-in instrument Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 351(1) Possess break-in instrument Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 351(1) Possess break-in instrument Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 354 Possession of property obtained by crime Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 90(1) Possession of a prohibited weapon Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert

    1992 November 20 &#8211; charges listed in BC court registry under file #42183-1-H (against Douglas ROBERT Garland):

    CCC - 355(a) PSP - Over $1,000 Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert
    CCC - 355(b) PSP - Under $1,000 Commit GARLAND, DOUGLAS Robert


    1992 DG commenced working at Can Test chemical testing lab in Vancouver where he went on to supervise 30 chemists and technicians. At the same time he was also a lab auditor for the B.C. government, checking for quality assurance at various testing facilities. (Unclear if this last sentence pertains to the 1992-1997 job or the subsequent job)

    1993 DG applied for and received a SIN in the name of Matthew Hartley. Also applied for a driver's license
    under the name Matthew Hartley and conducted all his activities in Vancouver under the name Matthew Hartley

    1994 AL declared bankruptcy (business or personal?)

    1997 DG finished working at Can Test after nervous breakdown

    1998 October, DG arrested in Richmond BC in connection with a stolen tractor trailer unit

    1998 October 02 &#8211; charges listed in BC court registry under file #41250-2-C (against Douglas JOHN Garland, found by searching under the alias Matthew Hartley):

    CCC - 355(a) PSP Over $5,000 Commit GARLAND, Douglas JOHN Richmond BC
    CCC - 129(a) wilfully resisting or obstructing a peace officer Commit GARLAND, Douglas JOHN Richmond BC


    1999 May 31, DG arrested in Vancouver BC; had been working as a chemical mixer at the B.C. Institute of Technology under the name of deceased Matthew Kemper Hartley. Charges of impersonation, trafficking in a controlled substance, theft over $5,000, possession of break-in instruments, possession of property obtained by crime over $5,000 and obstructing a police officer (weapons charge dismissed?).

    2000 Alvin was the respondent in 2 civil law suits

    2000 DG was released between June 19, 2000 and October 2000 after serving 1/6 of a 39 month sentence

    2005 March, Calgary, AB, lawsuit DG v. Ministry of National Revenue, DG represented himself and won an appeal wrt whether his employment at Can Test was insurable and pensionable employment

    2006 January 2, Alvin Liknes&#8217; daughter, EAL shot by ex-common-law husband, 61 yo Fernando Chora in Okotoks, AB. Chora (represented by Calgary lawyer, Adriano Iovinelli) was acquitted of assault, but found guilty of fleeing the scene and 2 weapons charges and sentenced to 4 years with credit for time served. During the trial, Chora told the judge that he had provided EAL with a great deal of money because of a criminal lifestyle. FC said he still carried a gun because he had enemies who may want to hurt him. He said he left that lifestyle behind when he moved out of his Kamloops BC home with EAL and moved to Vulcan AB

    2008 Nathan O&#8217;Brien born (September?)

    2008 AL&#8217;s company Blue Sky Oil and Gas Corp, involved with natural gas production, was registered in Nevada. Filings indicate Blue Sky was in merger discussions with a Florida company called Whitemark Homes Inc. As a result of the housing crash, Whitemark had proposed to take up resource development

    2009 DG's charged with "failure to yield to a pedestrian" and subsequent fine of $575

    2009 August 24, JO (nee JP-L) and RO married

    2012 KL ceased being a licenced realtor (as per Real Estate Council of Alberta in 2014 who said she had not been practising for two years)

    2012 KL declared personal bankruptcy

    2012 A Sarasota Florida-area businessmen involved with the Whitemark deal was a real estate developer with close ties to a man who was sentenced in 2012 to 3 yrs in prison for masterminding a large house-flipping fraud

    2013 DG ran his chemical manufacturing company, P2 Solutions Ltd until sometime this year

    2013 October, Alvin's son AL, said he last saw DG at his in-laws last Thanksgiving and said DG seemed a bit of a loner and didn't speak to him that much

    2013 December 5, title documents show the Liknes home was sold to a Calgary lawyer for $705,000. AL and KL continue to live in the home.

    2014

    2014 January FC released from prison

    2014 KL was involved in social media marketing, offering Search Engine Optimization services and website templates for businesses; also direct marketing for Nucerity (skincare products)

    June 11 estate sale ads started being placed in kijiji (ads placed June 11 to June 24)

    June 25 Winter Petroleum employees officially resigned on this date

    June 27 Friday, start of estate sale that was advertised as &#8220;SALE June 27,28,29th - FRIDAY 2PM-7PM, SATURDAY 8:30-4:00, SUNDAY 8:30-400&#8221;

    June 29 Winter Petroleum premises cleaned out

    June 29 locals report that the area near Parkhill neighbourhood had only a &#8220;brief spitting&#8221; of rain

    June 29 Sunday, JO attends estate sale at Liknes home with NO and his younger brother

    June 29 neighbour reports seeing AL playing in the park with NO around noon (elsewhere said NO in park and AL watching from by the garage in the back laneway)

    June 29 10:00pm approx. time JO leaves with the youngest boy and NO stays with AL and KL for a sleepover

    June 30 5:25am sunrise in Calgary

    June 30 10:00am Monday, JO returns to the Liknes house to pick up NO and nobody is at the home. She notifies LE

    June 30 10:00am Sometime in the morning after LE arrived, AL&#8217;s brother CL arrived at the home after having phoned and receiving no answer to his call(s?)

    June 30 5:15pm MT (mountain time) Amber Alert is issued

    July 1 Tuesday, AL and KL were to vacate their home at 124 38a Av SW, Calgary (to be verified whether July 1 or July 31)

    July 1, 11:00 am Investigators say they have no "significant leads" about the whereabouts of the missing family. Also that evidence at the Liknes home indicates the three family members left the residence against their will. LE ask anyone who attended the estate sale to contact them and that LE will be at Parkhill Community Centre on July 3 to meet with them. People are being asked to bring photos of what they bought to help investigators catalogue what was purchased and what remains in the house.

    July 1 2014 Police contacted 3 landfills asking for trash to be segregated

    July 1 RO sends an email late today to CTV Calgary saying that a reward will be announced Wednesday through CPS

    July 2 Wednesday, sometime after midnite and before morning, a neighbour of the Garlands is awake during the night and sees a light on in the greenhouse at the Garland farm. He says that is unusual.

    July 2 Neighbours notice that someone at the Garland property has been burning most of the day (elsewhere it said 2 days?)


    July 2 3:00pm MT (mountain time) JO and RO make public plea for the return of their son. LE say they have decided not to offer a cash reward at this time. LE also says the grandparents are not considered suspects.

    July 3 of approx. 200 people who attended sale, 80+ attended Parkhill Community Hall

    July 4 LE update says there was a violent struggle inside the Liknes home. They are searching for a green Ford F150 made in the late 1980s or early 1990s that was seen driving around the neighbourhood several times the night of the disappearance

    July 4 LE arrived at the Airdrie farm in the evening; a green truck matching the one LE is seeking is removed from the scene and POI DG is taken into custody

    July 5 Search takes place around the Liknes&#8217; home and the park.

    July 6 DG continue search at farm but DG is released from custody. LE says he remains a POI

    July 7 DG makes first court appearance and will be back in court Wednesday, July 9

    July 7 It is announced that POI has link to Liknes family and has criminal past. (It becomes known that DG&#8217;s sister is in a CIL relationship with AL&#8217;s son AL)

    July 7 Pastor Dave Pollard of Airdrie United Church says DG&#8217;s parents are doing as well as can be expected under the circumstances

    July 8 It is said that detectives have interviewed staff of AL&#8217;s company that went bankrupt weeks before the family&#8217;s disappearance

    July 9 DG made second court appearance. Will return to court Friday July 11 when he could be released on conditions, including that he provide an address where he will be staying

    July 9 LE reveal that DG and AL had money dealings that soured and there is "bad blood" related to money between the two. They are not aware of the specifics

    July 9 LE ask property owners in rural areas outside Calgary to search their land for anything suspicious

    July 10 LE commenced search of Spyhill landfill; bags of (potential?) evidence removed by LE

    July 10 LE start search of second landfill site at 17th and 68th Street today

    July 10 RCMP Explosives disposal unit was dispatched to the Garland property in Airdrie today

    July 10 In LE presser today, they say they know who was hurt in the home

    July 10 Hundreds of people attend vigil held for the family

    July 11 DG released from custody on $750 bail with the following terms: keep the peace and be of good behaviour; must stay in province (cannot leave Alberta without permission), surrender passport within 24 hours of release, to report 3 days a week, first report to be July 15, must provide land line phone # if available to supervisor, must be home between the hours of 9 pm and 7 am each day, he is to reside at transitional housing - hotel, motel, Mustard Seed, Drop-In Centre, Salvation Army Centre of Hope, or homeless shelter, be back in court Aug. 6 at case management office, not possess ID other than his own. DG asks judge "I live on a farm, sometimes working past 9 o'clock, would residence be on the farm itself?" The judge reminds him he won't be going to the farm but to some form of transitional housing.

    July 11 LE conclude search at southeast Calgary landfill and focus their efforts on an acreage north of the city and the Spyhill Landfill site. Also have a tactical unit at the Airdrie acreage to deal with dangerous and flammable chemicals that were found on the property. Asking people/businesses/oil companies in the Airdrie and Parkhill/Stanley Park areas to check their properties for absolutely anything out of the ordinary.

    July 11 Members of Liknes family confirm in the media that beef between AL and DG was over patent filed years ago by AL; family says it was AL's invention

    July 13 The Liknes home was released as a crime scene

    July 13 time unknown, homicide detectives conclude enough evidence to determine all 3 family members murdered

    July 14 1:30 am DG re-arrested in the early morning hours near his parents&#8217; farm in Airdrie.

    July 14 1:00 pm LE holds presser to advise that an arrest has been made and that two charges of first-degree murder (AL andKL) and one charge of second-degree murder (NO) are pending in the case. Police did not confirm the name of the suspect, but family has told media that Douglas Garland is the person. LE expect charges to be laid later today.

    July 14 DG was formally charged late tonite with 2 counts of first degree murder related to Alvin and Kathryn Liknes, and 1 count of second degree with regard to Nathan O&#8217;Brien. His next court appearance is scheduled for Wednesday, July 16

    July 16 Second court appearance for DG. Case adjourned to Aug. 14, defence (Kim Ross) awaiting disclosure

    July 31 AL and KL were to vacate their home (to be verified whether July 31 or July 1 2014)

    August 14 Third scheduled appearance for DG
     
  6. Cherchri

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    Well spotted. The four chemical sheds are to the left of that area. If that is where all the forensic tents were set up, something definitely germane to the crime took place there IMO.
     
  7. LoriMcA

    LoriMcA June 4, 2010...never forget...never give up...

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    Well I don't know about that....softener salt is common and you can buy large quantities anywhere for your softener.....but I think his business was export *I could be remembering wrong too*...The quantity that can be seen in the pictures *if it is in fact the softener salt* is normal for a farm situation...buy in bulk & don't run out kinda thing....Only reason I mentioned specifically it being salt is because that would explain the large amount shown if indeed it's the softener salt....does any of that make sense?*L* *me rambling....again!* JMOO
    Checking out your pictures of all the equipment too....the white tanks look like fertilizer tanks for the fields....and/or old fuel tanks ...more than likely fertilizer....the wood chipper looking orange piece...could be that or a manure spreader.....or...a feed grinder....with all the varied equipment out in the country....it could be almost anything....I wish we had better close up pics ya know?*L*
     
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    View attachment 55331

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nathan-o-brien-alberta-acreage-search-wraps-up-1.2712687

    The last photo in that link, what is the guy doing? Is that some type of sonar thingie?
     

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    I know, as a mother an daughter, if this was me I would not of been working the last few weeks and it would be a long time before I could go back to work. My bills would keep coming and household expenses wouldn't stop so this would be funds that this family will need...
     
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    I wonder which building on the farm,he used ,for producing his meth?
     
  11. sillybilly

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    <snip for space>

    I think the yellow thing is a diver's tank. If you click through frame-by-frame near the end and are lucky enough to get it to stop at the right point, there is a brief flash where you can see a tent, a white van, and 4 or 5 people ... the guy with the orange vest is helping a diver out of the water.
     
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    As far as I know, purple gas is dyed and tax exempt for farmers to use with farm equipment.
     
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    What is the significance of whether or not DG was using purple gas?
     
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    The drug raid was 22 years ago, so I think some of the out-buildings have changed over the years.
     
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    otto Verified Expert

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    None. There are several tanks on the property, and I was speculating on the purpose of one of the tanks. Additionally, if Garland used purple gas in his truck (which he most likely did if he had access to purple gas), then charges could be laid for using that gas for non-farm use.
     
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    Interesting about the purple gas.

    This guy could have a laundry list of incidental charges by the time this is through.
     
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    I can't find the post in the last thread, but someone was mentioning the area to the south of the Garland house (where tent was set up and aerial footage was limited) ...

    Going back through Google Earth history, that corner section to the south didn't have any structures or roadway in 2004. At September 13 2008, there was no structure there but the roadway to that corner was started. The next available history of July 16 2011 shows the road completed and the structure is seen.

    ETA: IIRC, P2 Solutions was started in 2010, so that corner of the property may be where DG was operating that business from.
     
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    DG would be able to use the dyed fuel (purple gas) if the truck had farm plates.

    "&#8226; Farm trucks used by the farmer or the farmer&#8217;s
    dependents for personal use, including transportation
    to and from off-farm employment"
     
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    http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/...c&utm_content=Dec+2012,+eng&utm_campaign=PMMC

    Federal Income Support for Parents of Murdered or Missing Children grant


    The Federal Income Support for Parents of Murdered or Missing Children (PMMC) grant is an income support grant available to applicants who have suffered a loss of income from taking time away from work to cope with the death or disappearance of their child or children, as a result of a probable Criminal Code offence
     
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    otto Verified Expert

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    In addition to several fundraising efforts (one source has raised $42,000), and work related benefits, the family also has access to public Victim Assistance funds.

    "Restitution
    Once charges are laid, victims have a right to apply for restitution from the offender, if they have suffered financial loss as a result of a crime. Restitution is a way for the offender to repay the victim. Download a request for restitution from the Alberta Government website.

    Financial benefits
    Eligible victims of violent crime in Alberta have a right to apply for Financial Benefits, as an acknowledgement of their victimization. This program is administered under the Victims of Crime Act and Regulation. Benefits are based on the victim&#8217;s verified injuries; with the amounts set in the Victims of Crime Regulation. Download financial benefits information from the Alberta Government website."

    http://www.calgary.ca/cps/Pages/Com...-of-crime/Victim-Assistance-Support-Team.aspx

    For example, funeral costs are covered if the deceased were victims of violent crime:

    https://www.solgps.alberta.ca/progr...efits Program - Death Benefit Application.pdf
     
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    otto Verified Expert

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    It seems that there is a lot of gov't money available to cover the costs that families incur when a family member is a victim of a violent crime.
     
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