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Still odd that DG was not segregated..His beating must/should have been foreseen. Not that I care a fig what happens to him..
Agree.
Just hearing of the recent news.
JMO
I hate to be suspicious of the jail/remand center officials but seriously this is ridiculous that just by chance other prisoners were allowed to get access to him.
Emotions were high after the trial and everyone knew this inmate wold be hated by everyone. The prisoners stay on top of this sort of news and the prisoners and the staff were well aware he was coming to their facility.
Ive seen way too many prison documentaries to not think that this could have been an "arranged" incident.
No matter if a real accident or not the remand center officials were at fault here to allow this to happen. This was predicatable.
I for one do not get any satisfaction from this. Nothing good ever comes from it. I refuse to become just like the murderers and other criminals and enjoy any sort of revenge or violence.
Not only that but we end up paying for this with real money. Our taxes are sometimes raised to pay for the huge lawsuits that get filed against the prison and jail facilities for incidents just like this. Lots of people dont realize that we end up paying for the wrongdoings of Sheriffs Jails and Prison administration errors that allow this sort of thing. Real money out of our pocket as they have to pay larger insurance premiums and pay for huge lawsuits and then come to us taxpayers to fund that.
This is why our system needs to take into account a punishment factor as part of the sentencing and that punishment needs to be severe enough to fit the crime. He basically received a Life imprisonment sentence and that is severe enough for me.
He will never feel remorse because he is not capable. The proof is he was someone that could do the crimes he did. That takes a sick mind and one who has no remorse. So let him rot as his punishment but torture and beatings become just like him if we allow that and we cannot stoop as low as him and other criminals. We cannot become them.
Just to add ... No, not giving a damned or even being happy that Garland got a few slaps is absolutely NOT the same as what he did. It absolutely is NOT sinking to his level or being 'as bad as him' ... I'm not plotting his next beating, I'm not the one doing the beating but I don't have to feel sorry for him or condemn his attackers ... you lay with dogs, you catch fleas
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If I smirked a little when I heard that DG took a beating, that didn't make me a a triple murderer. Nor did it cause the beating. Nor did it encourage the beating. Nor is the world going to go to hell in a hand basket cuz I smirked.
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Imho
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I'm struggling to understand how any of you can seriously think that there will ever, ever be a time when Garland will 'sit and think about what he's done' in any other way than a self satisfying one!
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Seriously, the time for that has been and gone. If it didn't happen when the mother of the child you KNOW you've beaten to death and chucked his body in a burn barrel, is looking into your eyes pleading with you ... you are dead inside.
I dont want Garland dead or brain damaged but do I care an iota if he's got a few slaps in jail already? Hell no! I did a happy dance ... if those 4 men had really wanted to kill him, they would've. They're bad guys, not pussy cats. They wanted him to know that he needs to feel fear every minute of his day and night and so do I <modsnip>
Is it 'out of control'?<modsnip>It's about a larger issue, of whether or not it is appropriate to tolerate prisoner abuse. Prison is part of the "justice" system in our enlightened and democratic society and ought to reflect the values that Canadians place on Justice. How can we support a prison system within which crime against prisoners is out of control?
Well, a 40 year old man who was in the remand for shoplifting and on suicide watch was beaten to death by his cell mate in September....Is it 'out of control'?
Is it 'out of control'?
That is, of course, awful. Shoplifters shouldn't be in jail at all in my mind but, does one isolated incident mean that it's 'out of control'?Well, a 40 year old man who was in the remand for shoplifting and on suicide watch was beaten to death by his cell mate in September....
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That is, of course, awful. Shoplifters shouldn't be in jail at all in my mind but, does one isolated incident mean that it's 'out of control'?
It's not just one incident. Several incidents that occurred in the last couple of years have been posted here in the last few days.
The same way that we hear about the one happening in the streets..Is there that much of a difference?
We could patrol the street and pour money into prison, there is always going to be violence.
I don't follow. Police arrest people who violently attack people on the street, and they do the same thing when prisoners violently attack people in prison. It doesn't matter where someone is, violence is not acceptable in the Canadian society.
I don't follow. Police arrest people who violently attack people on the street, and they do the same thing when prisoners violently attack people in prison. It doesn't matter where someone is, violence is not acceptable in the Canadian society.