Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #11

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Thanks dotr for posting the Macleans article again. Having read JS's partial eulogy again, I think it is apparent that he genuinely loved and was grateful to his mother and was devastated by her death. He was honest about his relationship with his absent father and acknowledged his good points.

It is hard being the child of a super star, genius, self made billionaire. ...big shoes to fill, and almost impossible for a child to compete with. I can understand his sense of rivalry, and know that he took it too far in challenging his father. The emails exposed JS at his worst. I'm sure he regrets them. But they do not make him a double murderer.

For a long time Kevin D. believed police covered up a murder/suicide based on his "close sources." Now he is basically pointing the finger at JS, based on his other "close sources". Does he really believe everything that "close sources" tell him? Or is he just going for a story?
I vote “story”. Look how the media sliced and diced the Steven Avery trial for sensationalism. $$$
 
Think of it as a hobby. BS is entitled to have some fun. He can afford it. A lot of guys understate to significant others how much their hobbies cost. He could have bought into yachting instead. His son is a gnat.
However, his son also has enough money, he doesn’t need to resort to extremes (like Oland) to get more.

JS may be the primary focus of the recent disclosures by Kevin Donovan, but he is only part of the picture IMO.
If BS did curtail or possibly threaten to curtail funding for his son's ventures, I have to say that in addition to JS, Adam P. appears, IMO, based on what has come out, to be an individual that appears to have motive, and is someone that requires investigation by LE. It is interesting to me that BS evidently became quite upset at the suggestion by JS that AP could be part of some kind of succession arrangement at Apotex. I wonder if perhaps BS viewed JS as being controlled by or unduly influenced by AP in some way? Or perhaps he had doubts or concerns about him? If funding of the JS/AP venture(s) was threatened in some way, the murders would be a way to get around this. Of course, I have no knowledge, JMO, but I hope LE is chasing this angle down. Others comments?
 
JS may be the primary focus of the recent disclosures by Kevin Donovan, but he is only part of the picture IMO.
If BS did curtail or possibly threaten to curtail funding for his son's ventures, I have to say that in addition to JS, Adam P. appears, IMO, based on what has come out, to be an individual that appears to have motive, and is someone that requires investigation by LE. It is interesting to me that BS evidently became quite upset at the suggestion by JS that AP could be part of some kind of succession arrangement at Apotex. I wonder if perhaps BS viewed JS as being controlled by or unduly influenced by AP in some way? Or perhaps he had doubts or concerns about him? If funding of the JS/AP venture(s) was threatened in some way, the murders would be a way to get around this. Of course, I have no knowledge, JMO, but I hope LE is chasing this angle down. Others comments?

In theory:

Why were both Honey and Barry targeted for murder? The killer would financially benefit in some way from the estate, or with their deaths any expectation of loan repayments may also end.

-close to the Shermans, familiar with the house, routines, and had a key/code.

-comfortable enough in the home to take time with the murders. They’ve been in the home before, they know it well.

-physically enough strength and endurance to strangle two people then stage them as they were found.
 
In theory:
Why were both Honey and Barry targeted for murder? The killer would financially benefit in some way from the estate, or with their deaths any expectation of loan repayments may also end.

-close to the Shermans, familiar with the house, routines, and had a key/code.

Or, was well-known already to them, and would be allowed in by HS without question. IMO, there was more than one "killer."
 
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It’s been a troubled few years for Canadian generics maker Apotex after the unsolved murder of founder Barry Sherman and a possible sale in the works. Now, after multiple warnings from the FDA, Apotex faces a future without approvals for a big slice of its portfolio.


The FDA yanked 31 of Apotex’s generic drug nods Wednesday after the agency identified manufacturing deficiencies at two of the drugmaker’s India-based plants. The list of drugs that lost their FDA blessing includes the common blood pressure drugs valsartan and losartan, the antibiotic azithromycin and copycat Viagra.

The hits keep coming: Apotex loses 31 drug approvals after FDA cites plants for 'inadequate' controls
 
From link, thanks!rbbm.
"With the company in turmoil, the Sherman family appointed a financial advisor in April to weigh options to sell the company, which could have been worth $3 billion at the time, according to Bloomberg.

In 2018, Apotex sold its businesses in five European countries to Aurobindo for €74 million ($83 million) to focus on sales in the Americas."
 
Wondering what the Shermans would have thought about all of this?! rbbm.
December 16, 2017
Baycrest mourns the loss of two of its visionary leaders, Barry and Honey Sherman
"Barry served as a member of the Baycrest Centre Board, and as an honourary member of the Baycrest Foundation Board. Honey’s longstanding dedication to Baycrest included actively participating with the Women’s Auxiliary, leading many fundraising events, and serving as a member of the Baycrest Campaign Cabinet, and both the Baycrest Centre and Foundation Boards of Directors."
Apr 5, 2018
Endless court battles, angry relatives and shady players: the truth about Barry Sherman
On Dec. 12, 2017, the day before the couple was last seen alive, Honey missed a scheduled meeting at the Baycrest Centre Foundation. Were it any other board member, no one would’ve paid heed, says Josh Cooper, the foundation’s president and CEO. But Honey, a beloved queen bee in the upper echelons of Canadian philanthropy, was known for showing up—or else saying she couldn’t. “It was bizarre,” says Cooper.

July 11 2019

Baycrest Health Sciences lets go 150 workers for alleged benefits fraud
"A leading geriatric health-care facility has fired, or accepted the resignations of, about 150 employees amid allegations they defrauded their benefits plan of millions of dollars over the past eight years.
Baycrest Health Sciences said the losses are estimated at $4 million to $5 million, but the final tally – including the cost of unravelling the mess, hiring replacement staff, and implementing preventative measures – has yet to be calculated."

 
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Wondering what the Shermans would have thought about all of this?! rbbm.
December 16, 2017
Baycrest mourns the loss of two of its visionary leaders, Barry and Honey Sherman
"Barry served as a member of the Baycrest Centre Board, and as an honourary member of the Baycrest Foundation Board. Honey’s longstanding dedication to Baycrest included actively participating with the Women’s Auxiliary, leading many fundraising events, and serving as a member of the Baycrest Campaign Cabinet, and both the Baycrest Centre and Foundation Boards of Directors."
Apr 5, 2018
Endless court battles, angry relatives and shady players: the truth about Barry Sherman
On Dec. 12, 2017, the day before the couple was last seen alive, Honey missed a scheduled meeting at the Baycrest Centre Foundation. Were it any other board member, no one would’ve paid heed, says Josh Cooper, the foundation’s president and CEO. But Honey, a beloved queen bee in the upper echelons of Canadian philanthropy, was known for showing up—or else saying she couldn’t. “It was bizarre,” says Cooper.

July 11 2019

Baycrest Health Sciences lets go 150 workers for alleged benefits fraud
"A leading geriatric health-care facility has fired, or accepted the resignations of, about 150 employees amid allegations they defrauded their benefits plan of millions of dollars over the past eight years.
Baycrest Health Sciences said the losses are estimated at $4 million to $5 million, but the final tally – including the cost of unravelling the mess, hiring replacement staff, and implementing preventative measures – has yet to be calculated."
Wonder if they had caught onto it before their deaths and approached someone about it?
 
Wondering what the Shermans would have thought about all of this?! rbbm.
December 16, 2017
Baycrest mourns the loss of two of its visionary leaders, Barry and Honey Sherman
"Barry served as a member of the Baycrest Centre Board, and as an honourary member of the Baycrest Foundation Board. Honey’s longstanding dedication to Baycrest included actively participating with the Women’s Auxiliary, leading many fundraising events, and serving as a member of the Baycrest Campaign Cabinet, and both the Baycrest Centre and Foundation Boards of Directors."
Apr 5, 2018
Endless court battles, angry relatives and shady players: the truth about Barry Sherman
On Dec. 12, 2017, the day before the couple was last seen alive, Honey missed a scheduled meeting at the Baycrest Centre Foundation. Were it any other board member, no one would’ve paid heed, says Josh Cooper, the foundation’s president and CEO. But Honey, a beloved queen bee in the upper echelons of Canadian philanthropy, was known for showing up—or else saying she couldn’t. “It was bizarre,” says Cooper.

July 11 2019

Baycrest Health Sciences lets go 150 workers for alleged benefits fraud
"A leading geriatric health-care facility has fired, or accepted the resignations of, about 150 employees amid allegations they defrauded their benefits plan of millions of dollars over the past eight years.
Baycrest Health Sciences said the losses are estimated at $4 million to $5 million, but the final tally – including the cost of unravelling the mess, hiring replacement staff, and implementing preventative measures – has yet to be calculated."

I swear, with every article connected to the Shermans the suspect list gets longer.
 
Hopefully the generous Sherman donations given to Baycrest (Foundation or Centre) have been audited by a different firm than the one that serviced Baycrest Health Sciences. I can't fathom how an eight year, 4-5 million dollar fraud could go undetected. Auditing, and checks and balances were obviously dismal. I hope we hear full details. 75 % of those millions was tax payers' money. TPS better open a crime investigation and delve deeply into all aspects. What a scandal.
 
Hopefully the generous Sherman donations given to Baycrest (Foundation or Centre) have been audited by a different firm than the one that serviced Baycrest Health Sciences. I can't fathom how an eight year, 4-5 million dollar fraud could go undetected. Auditing, and checks and balances were obviously dismal. I hope we hear full details. 75 % of those millions was tax payers' money. TPS better open a crime investigation and delve deeply into all aspects. What a scandal.

The Baycrest heal5h and dental plan was administered by Couglin and Associates, a lower tier administrator that imo hasn’t invested in some of the fraud detection expertise and technology that larger administrators and insurers have. This would have been detected much earlier if appropriate audit procedures and claims analysis was in place at Couglin. While any administrator is open to fraud, I cannot understand why Baycrest would have entrusted its plan to them- other than perhaps it was done in return for a large donation- speculation on my part.
In any event, I cannot imagine this incident is in any way linked to the murders.
 
AK seems to be a remarkable woman, she could do and have anything she wants, yet is a nurse for homeless people and also trying her best to continue a legacy of giving.
It is very sad that not only has AK lost her parents in such horrific fashion, but that she is filled with fear, imo.
From link, thanks..
rbbm.
"Alexandra Krawczyk was paralyzed by fear after her billionaire parents, Barry and Honey Sherman, were murdered.

"I couldn't leave my home for months because I was too scared," Krawczyk says.

She's still afraid, knowing police have yet to make any arrests in the shocking case. But she refuses to let it deter her from ensuring the community projects in which her parents invested millions will keep going.

"We don't know where the next target is, right? It's an alarming situation, and I feel that I do have to be on guard. But that's not going to stop me from doing important work."

"A registered nurse who has worked mostly with homeless people, she has always led a private life. She finds stepping into the spotlight difficult."


"As long as the uncertainty exists about who murdered Barry and Honey Sherman and why, Krawczyk says grieving for her parents is that much harder.

"I wish we could have some answers so everyone could sleep better at night," she says."
 
A very fascinating article on AK - kudos to her for sharing her story, she sounds like a remarkable person? How many daughters-of-billionaires are working as a street nurses with the homeless? She might be the only one. There was one little part that I found very interesting:

"At first I couldn't process them both at the same time, I could only understand that my mom had passed. And then six weeks later it hit me that my dad had passed too"

It took police six weeks (Jan. 26, 2018) to declare the deaths a "targeted double-homicide" and rule out other possibilities (e.g. murder-suicide). I have no idea whether these two things are related but I did find the timeline similarity to be at least interesting.
 
A very fascinating article on AK - kudos to her for sharing her story, she sounds like a remarkable person? How many daughters-of-billionaires are working as a street nurses with the homeless? She might be the only one. There was one little part that I found very interesting:

"At first I couldn't process them both at the same time, I could only understand that my mom had passed. And then six weeks later it hit me that my dad had passed too"

It took police six weeks (Jan. 26, 2018) to declare the deaths a "targeted double-homicide" and rule out other possibilities (e.g. murder-suicide). I have no idea whether these two things are related but I did find the timeline similarity to be at least interesting.
Yes, very interesting.
 
A very fascinating article on AK - kudos to her for sharing her story, she sounds like a remarkable person? How many daughters-of-billionaires are working as a street nurses with the homeless? She might be the only one. There was one little part that I found very interesting:

"At first I couldn't process them both at the same time, I could only understand that my mom had passed. And then six weeks later it hit me that my dad had passed too"

It took police six weeks (Jan. 26, 2018) to declare the deaths a "targeted double-homicide" and rule out other possibilities (e.g. murder-suicide). I have no idea whether these two things are related but I did find the timeline similarity to be at least interesting.


I tried to imagine how AK must have felt after both parents died, when she said that her father's death didn't hit her until six weeks later. I know each person grieves differently, but I found that really strange. I didn't clue into the six week timing of LE declaring their deaths as targeted double-homicides as iveyguy did.

Although family and friends were quick to debunk the media reports of murder/suicide (and who knows what TPS initially told the kids, if anything) we do know that the family complained about the total lack of communication from TPS for those six weeks following the deaths.

It's hard to determine if AK may have secretly worried, thinking that police are usually right, they knew a lot more than she knew about the crime scene, and their lack of communication (privately to the family, and publicly) as the media went wild with the M/S theory was ominous. That could have planted doubt in her mind that her parents were both murdered. Or, maybe she could envision that BS was possibly capable of murder/suicide for some reason, which would explain her six week delay in "understanding" that he passed away too--that LE had finally stated that he was murdered too (cleared him of murdering her mother).

What a nightmare this has been for the innocent loved ones left behind.
 
I swear, with every article connected to the Shermans the suspect list gets longer.

It is significant, how the media can impact on our perceptions. We see some report that highlights an individual(s) and our focus becomes directed to those people.

I really doubt that the Shermans were aware of the fraud that was occurring at Baycrest, but one can believe that Honey would have really been upset about it. The fact Honey missed the Baycrest meeting before her death, is an interesting consideration and a possible coincidence.

Since the TPS has stated they have an idea of what took place at the Sherman residence I kinda believe they have a smaller list of suspects than we have.
 
This is terribly Square One-ish of me, but I can't fathom, based on body positioning at the time of discovery, how m/s was initially accepted as the likeliest scenario.

In a case full of nagging questions, it's the one that nags the most.

If Honey had been found as she was, but Barry was found hanging, that's a scene that would immediately seem to spell m/s, though it would not necessarily mean m/s took place.

Murder made to look like M/S.

If the bodies were found exactly as has been made public, to me, that calls for a deep probe long before any conclusion can be drawn and...made public.
 
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