Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #8

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  1. ldlager

    ldlager Well-Known Member

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    I believe KW has previously posted here that he believes a third party provided assistance to BS in this act, including potentially staging the scene. Not to put words in his mouth, but I believe that's how KW feels this may have played out.
     


  2. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    As for that theory, yes it’s been mentioned. But a third party “providing assistance” whatsoever is still a crime, even more serious when helping to cause death. That’s murder. It wouldn’t even fall within the range of assisted suicide (which is also murder) because, by all reports, Barry had no serious health issues that would’ve resulted in imminent natural death. Countlesss defenses using the excuse “they asked to die” have failed because the only witness is already dead.

    IMO it’s even more farfetched to imagine a husband murdering a wife, then calling up someone to help kill him, or stage bodies as a morbid duo to make it appear as if the two decided to die by suicide together, hanging from a pool railing. Who in their right mind would become involved in such a scenario? To me that verges on sheer craziness of not only the perpetrator but the “assistant” as well. It wouldn’t even wash in a book of pure fiction unless the conspirators were virtually insane - and we know Barry Sherman was definitely not.

    JMO
     
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  3. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    How could the multiple killers be with my cousin for 6-9 hrs and not lay a finger on him. Remember, there wasn’t a cut, bruise, scratch, any defensive injury on Barry!
     
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  4. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    The phone call came from my lawyer after receiving a call from a reporter at the Globe and Mail.
     
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  5. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    You’re so sure Barry wasn’t losing his mind. Less than 6 months before their deaths l sat across from him during an examination. The 1st thing l said to my lawyer as we were leaving was, “ he’s lost his ^}~<>_ mind!!!!”
     
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  6. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    Thx Andreww!
     
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    PaulR Verified Software and Computer Tech

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    What was the second thing you said?
     
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  8. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Hostility, animosity, resentment...all typical emotions shared between plaintiffs and defendants involved in bitter civil suits I’d imagine. Barry may have had much the same thoughts as you!
     
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    human Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone where he works mention that Barry was losong his mind?
     
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  10. JDG

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    Kerry, I'm just curious. How do you 'know' what injuries were sustained or not by Barry?
     
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    First, that there was a 6-9 hour difference in their TODs is something stated only by KW and completely unsubstantiated. Second, who is to say what time BS arrived home after HS? Nobody has said he did or didn't go straight home, or what time for sure he left his office, etc. That alone could explain any difference in TODs.
     
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  12. deugirtni

    deugirtni Well-Known Member

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    Or any other family members, friends?
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    rbbm.
    Mourners pay tribute to Canadian billionaire couple Barry and Honey Sherman
    "Apotex Vice-Chairman Jack Kay recalled spending long hours working side-by-side with Barry Sherman, becoming good friends over the course of more than 30 years in business together.

    “(Barry) was a teddy bear in real life, with the mind of a steel trap and the stubbornness of a bull,” Kay said. “We would tell each other that we would live to 120 … which he later amended to 150 as in his words, ‘ there was too much to be done.”
     
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    Do we even know that Honey got home first? What if she went shopping at Yorkdale Mall or grabbed a bite to eat, met a friend for coffee etc after leaving Apotex??

    If we know this, I apologize. Just can't read back all of the threads. lol
     
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    I am sure if Honey had supper or coffee with someone after leaving Apotex,the police would know because the person would come forward.
     
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    But WE on WS would not know and that's my point.
    Maybe I should have emphasized 'WE' on the first post.

    All WE know is COD from the authorities.

    Everything else is 'sourced'. So WE really know nothing.
    And, it will be like that until there is a trial I suppose.
     
  17. Kerry Winter

    Kerry Winter Verified Family - Barry and Honey Sherman

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    When Barry sat down beside Kay, (his lawyer), he turned to her and asked, “why am l here?”
    She replied, “now Barry, thst’s your cousin Kerry.”
     
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    Is this a new piece of information and am I reading it correctly?
    “ Detective B. Price’s reaction when told re. 6-9 hrs time of Honey’s death to Barry’s gave it away. “

    It is being said that there was 6-9 hours between Honey’s murder and Barry’s? This puts a different light on the whole scenario doesn’t it?
     
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    deugirtni Well-Known Member

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    I really doubt if he didn't recognize you, if that is what is being implied. When he said, 'why am I here?', it likely meant.. 'why am I here, wasting my time on this yet again????'.. that would certainly be my interpretation. jmo.
     
  20. ldlager

    ldlager Well-Known Member

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    I doubt very much that after about 48 hrs after death LE could verify and certify a 6 to 9 hr TOD difference between the 2 bodies. Decomposition of both bodies would have been well advanced, especially in a probably damp pool area. Rigor m would likely have been fully reversed by then in both bodies, and both bodies would show full hypostastis, or blood having settled in the lower extremities. Entomology would help somewhat, but a 6 hr difference seems to me to me to be a stretch to verify.
     
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