CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #21

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I don't see any issues in using pot..it is legal here. The pot stores where I live are busier than Timmies. I have no clue what BS using cannabis has to do with being murdered. Unless you think BS trying to create a cannabis pill to help manage pain etc has something to do with his and HS murders?
 
Accessing unsealed documents is a constitutional right in the country where the murders took place, not the act of an insider.

@Lexiintoronto quoted the Toronto Star article which outlines the same - much appreciated!
I don’t dispute that one may access unsealed documents. I asked where you accessed them. Possibly others here would wish to do the same. Or you could attach a link to the document, so others could refer to it and not only rely on your comment(s).
 
Can you believe JS actually asserts there could be a same-sex relationship between BS and FD as a causative factor for the murders?

JS tells KD that he won't ever mislead him. Upon giving him the emails, he says that that's all there is. KD then, from another source, receives emails from two weeks before BS asks for the money. It's the discussion around a business meeting and them arguing about whether AP should be included. A tense exchange, to be sure. First, why would JS leave that out? Second, what other entity would have those emails? TPS? Is TPS still giving clues to KD? Like DY and PS did in the court recess mentioning the Green Storage building on the east side with no context at all?




"The game is afoot."
I believe I recall that JK was copied on the emails As he was to attend the meetings. TPS is not releasing confidential email information to KD IMO
 
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I have been following this case so closely but I must admit I haven't found the time to listen to this podcast.
Very interesting....this is a new twist if there's some truth to it.
A lot of what's in his podcast is from the book, which I only read a couple of weeks ago. Definitely give it a go. Also, the one Kathleen Goldhar did for CBC was really good, they both covered different things in different ways and didn't speak to all the same people.
 
so I still dont recognize the names used in this case or the players..but after a first look, I agree with the writer that this most possibly will never be solved ..the bigger possibilty is that the killers comes from higher places
and this is another case where everybody are suspect .. starting with the invstigation
I dont agree on a botched invstigation...the suicide /murder angle is so crazy and unwarnted (there was NEVER a murder/suicide like this in history for one ) ..and A 75 year old doing all of this is crazier on top of it
so, how did this crazy thoery last for week ..unless.. it was actually deliberate to give them time for the evidence to disappear ? why not, its so much power and money at play.. the right ingredients.. we seen it beofre
THIS IS jmpo
 
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and if the children are sincere ( cant forget the mother was considering changing her will !)
then instead or raising awards no one will get, why not a very big documentry ..cause this isnt even a famous case.. atleast I never came across it before
a doc might shake things up..
 
and if the children are sincere ( cant forget the mother was considering changing her will !)
then instead or raising awards no one will get, why not a very big documentry ..cause this isnt even a famous case.. atleast I never came across it before
a doc might shake things up..
It's a huge case in Canada. It's been almost 6 years but I have no doubt that it will be on Dateline, 48 hours etc. once someone is arrested. Listen to the 2 podcasts to get the best info about who the prime suspect is in the minds of most people. Crave is having a documentary based on the book on June 16 and 23, 4 episodes in total. There is a lot of info out there. I do believe there will be charges but the killer put a lot of obstacles in place and other obstacles were already there i.e. Apotex not allowing police to have a lot of Barry's emails etc. since there was private info involved. Also, the family hiring Eddie Greenspan meant any info he and his team found that the family didn't want police to know about would be considered lawyer/client privilege.

Follow the money...
 
so the podcast and the book and the doc is all by the same journalist right ?
should i try the book instead ?.. podcasts can be a hit or miss with me
 
so the podcast and the book and the doc is all by the same journalist right ?
should i try the book instead ?.. podcasts can be a hit or miss with me
''Feb 2, 2018
Barry Sherman was Canada’s top pharmaceutical executive, worth over $4 billion dollars. His wife, Honey was a philanthropist who raised millions for charities. They were loved and admired for their success and generosity. But Barry also had a long list of enemies which had grown over time as he battled rivals in courtrooms and boardrooms, always determined to win, whatever the cost… So when the couple were found strangled in their Toronto home in December, the whispers began. Did someone really hate them enough to kill them? Was it a professional hit, an act of bitter vengeance from someone known to the Shermans, or was there another explanation? ''


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so the podcast and the book and the doc is all by the same journalist right ?
should i try the book instead ?.. podcasts can be a hit or miss with me
Go with the podcasts since they're free. Also, the link DOTR posted for the 5th estate is a good one. The other podcast is called the no good, terribly kind, wonderful lives and tragic deaths of Honey and Barry Sherman. Also available on Spotify etc.
 
I have been following this case so closely but I must admit I haven't found the time to listen to this podcast.
Very interesting....this is a new twist if there's some truth to it.

From listening to JS he tends to go to extremes when he’s angry with someone so I think this is just another accusation he made that had no real basis in the truth. He has also accused FD’A of being homophobic, so suggesting he was gay to the Toronto Star would be a great way to annoy him, imo.
 
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Or maybe they did not know how to reset it, and wanted to leave the property as soon as they could after the murders and staging. Not re-setting it, and leaving Barry's papers on the floor, where they likely fell, when he was attacked as he entered the basement, and even leaving Honey's phone on the upstairs powder room floor -- a washroom she never used, were sloppy. This gives credance to KD's belief that they were not skilled, professional, hired killers. They might have had military training in killing, but not staging, or making sure the murder scene was really clean from any incriminating evidence left behind. IMO
This has been on my mind- since it was winter and the streets are usually a sloppy mess- did the killers leave behind any snowy, sloppy wet snow or dirt in the house?? Do you think the killers took their shoes off at the door before the murders?? Or did they clean the floors prior to leaving? If so, then why not clean up Barry’s papers and Honey’s cell phone too? I know during winter here it is hard to keep the entrances clean as they sand and salt the streets and it gets tracked in the house. I am caught up on this annoying detail-
 
This has been on my mind- since it was winter and the streets are usually a sloppy mess- did the killers leave behind any snowy, sloppy wet snow or dirt in the house?? Do you think the killers took their shoes off at the door before the murders?? Or did they clean the floors prior to leaving? If so, then why not clean up Barry’s papers and Honey’s cell phone too? I know during winter here it is hard to keep the entrances clean as they sand and salt the streets and it gets tracked in the house. I am caught up on this annoying detail-
It would also depend on the type of snow that had fallen that night. From the photos it looked like a light dusting and then I think it was very cold that evening. So it may not leave that much of a mess. You would track in more snow if it was a packy snow, if it was a dry snow and then very cold outside not much would track in at all. Also, the killer could have stomped his boots off before entering, or slipped on little throw away "booties" over top of his boots. (the kind you get sometimes at Dr's offices etc)

Plus, remember the housekeep was cleaning, and there were a few people in that home the morning the bodies were discovered so the whole scene would have been contaminated at this point.
 
It would also depend on the type of snow that had fallen that night. From the photos it looked like a light dusting and then I think it was very cold that evening. So it may not leave that much of a mess. You would track in more snow if it was a packy snow, if it was a dry snow and then very cold outside not much would track in at all. Also, the killer could have stomped his boots off before entering, or slipped on little throw away "booties" over top of his boots. (the kind you get sometimes at Dr's offices etc)

Plus, remember the housekeep was cleaning, and there were a few people in that home the morning the bodies were discovered so the whole scene would have been contaminated at this point.
Okay- didn’t think of the slip in booties- very probable. Also , yes the housekeeper may have cleaned up too - thanks - this has been going around my head for a while
 
2018 By Rosie DiManno rbbm
''What is so eye-catching is not just the extravagance of the reward, announced by family lawyer Brian Greenspan on Friday at the Apotex headquarters in north Toronto, for which reporters had to pre-register, sign in and be escorted to the bathroom by a security official, lest anybody go poking about in what is a notoriously secret, intensely cutthroat business. The kind that just might attract, say, the services of a contract killer. And lord knows Barry Sherman had made an abundance of enemies during his spectacular career.

It’s the entitlement, the check-book command that some people enjoy because that’s all they’ve ever known.''

“We believe that it provides the new initiative, the new opportunity to seek information,” said Greenspan. “It’s not as if leads have not poured into my office over the past 10 months. Every consideration is given to each of the calls, whether from a psychic or from someone who might otherwise prove to be untrustworthy.''

“Many, many investigations are successfully concluded as a result of someone in either a criminal organization or someone who has been involved as an offender in the criminal community who is aware of information … and until and unless an incentive is provided to that person, either by leniency in a subsequent (court matter) or the offer of a significant award, they remain silent and remain committed to that silence within that community.

“This is the opportunity for those people to come forward. And as they become wealthy, their colleagues who are engaged in this crime become the subjects of a prosecution.’’


''And, of course, the Sherman clan has one critical axe to grind: the colossal blunder, by the family’s reckoning, of an early investigative theory, bruited around un-sourced in media reports, that the deaths were a murder-suicide.''


''Of course, it is entirely possible, even likely, that police — they long stayed silent about the investigation, no updates — are playing their cards close to the vest because they’re loath to share information with family members who may still be viewed as suspects, although Greenspan dismissed that possibility out of hand.''
 
do you mean there is a main suspect (as a known person attached to the case ) ..that I will find about during the podcasts ?
or is it merly the funny walking figure in the vid ?
also..it seems the donovan guy skirts over the higher powers thoery from what i hear ?
 
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