Canada - Bruce McArthur- Pleads Guilty - murders of 8 men, Toronto, 2010-2017 #2

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    If he pleads guilty to all 8 murder charges, can he be sentenced to longer than 25 years?
     
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    IF its a guilty plea, what does he want in return?

    Do we let him have early parole? Put him in a cushy prison?

    I hope this man never walks free again, ever.
     
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    An 'Agreed Statement of Facts' hopefully.
     
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    Brian Hurley‏ @brianhurley 1h1 hour ago
    Alleged serial killer Bruce McArthur to appear in court this morning http://dlvr.it/QxjcBb

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    Arvin Joaquin‏ @ArvinJoaquin 17h17 hours ago
    #DEVELOPING: Announcement of a "significant development" in the case of alleged serial killer, Bruce McArthur, is expected during his scheduled court appearance tomorrow. (via @TorontoPolice)

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    My first thought was that he was pleading guilty to avoid being declared a dangerous offender and qualify for the ‘faint hope clause’ but I honestly can’t see the Crown going for that, IMO.
     
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    If he's pleading guilty to First Degree murder, then about the only thing that he gets in return is that his defense costs will be lower than paying for a trial. The sentence isn't up for negotiation.
     
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    Yes. He can be sentenced to 25 years for each murder, which would be 200 years. I wish that instead of issuing the ridiculously long sentences that we sometimes see in the US , that a life sentence for a preditor murderer such as BM, meant that anyone so sentenced would remain in prison for life. Simple.
     
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    Virtually no one pleads guilty to first degree murder, never mind multiple counts. He wants something, he won't be paying the bill for the trial or time. Something is on the table, even if its a cushy prison townhouse. Perhaps he misses gardening <sarcasm>
     
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    Unlike some - perhaps many - serial killers - I think he was motivated more by his own perverse pleasures, not publicity or proving how smart he is, so possibly, given his age and the fact that he can no longer get away with his hideous "lifestyle", he just wants it over and done with.
     
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    Toronto Police Insp. Hank Idsinga, the lead investigator on the case, has arrived in court. #McArthur

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    Detective Dave Dickinson, the officer in charge of the McArthur case has now arrived, and Crown attorney Michael Cantlon and Inspector Hank Idsinga from @TPSHomicide. There are easily 100 people in the courtroom now.

    Court is taking a brief recess. Lawyers involved in McArthur case are having a meeting.

    @cmcdonalglobal
     
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    Crown tells us he has copies of his statement for the media. So there will be a statement. Court in recess for the moment. #BruceMcArthur @CHCHNews

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    LIVE.
     
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    Court is now in recess again as McArthur is brought up to the courtroom. The judge has also said that a victim's family is in London and will be phoned in to listen to McArthur's appearance this morning.

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    The officer from the @TPSK9 Sgt Derrick Gaudet, who searched many of the properties where Bruce McArthur used to landscape including Mallory Crescent has also just arrived. He is the handler for “Major”. Gaudet and Major’s work was crucial in this case for finding human remains

    Catherine McDonald on Twitter
     
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    The homeowner from Mallory Crescent, Karen Fraser, is also here. McArthur used to store her landscaping tools in the garage of that home and it was in planters found on Fraser’s property that police allege human remains were found hidden

    Catherine McDonald on Twitter
     
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