GUILTY Canada - James Hayward, 24, killed by GF's dad, Yorkton, SK, 17 March 2003

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  1. Snoopster

    Snoopster Well-Known Member

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    What would you do to save your child from a bad, poentially deadly, influence? Would you kill?

    http://www.timescolonist.com/Editorial+Breaking+help+child/4853491/story.html

    All I know is that I am thankful that I never had to face that decision!
     
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  3. marycarney

    marycarney Inactive

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    Wow! The link is to an editorial - not a news story - but it attempts to compare this case to a woman who covered up her son's involvement in a fatal hit-and-run.

    No comparison at all IMHO. He was trying to save his daughter FROM evil, the mother tried to COVER UP evil.
     
  4. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    What a very sad story. She was 16, stupid and probably in mortal danger. What parent wouldn't want to do everything in their power to fix that?

    The mother who helped her kid cover up a fatal hit-and-run? No sympathy, whatsoever.
     
  5. Snoopster

    Snoopster Well-Known Member

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    Here are some links to news articles about the story in question (the father was on trial for the second time).

    Man apologizes for killing daughter's boyfriend; victim's brother won't forgivehttp://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gl47WizdGveyAhssy5dbLoIwYUow?docId=6979444



    Dad guilty of manslaughter in death of daughter's boyfriend
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/guilty+manslaughter+death+daughter+boyfriend/4846332/story.html

    Simply sad all around. :(
     
  6. UdbCrzy2

    UdbCrzy2 New Member

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    Sounds like this guy has some severe problems and should be locked up forever. So what happens when he doesn't like his daughter's boss or teachers? I cannot believe they reduced this to manslaughter, the victim was unarmed and the girl made her own choices.
     
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    cuppy199 New Member

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    A man who shacks up with a 16 year old teenage girl is hardly the same thing as a boss or teacher. Do I agree with him killing the young man no but I dont think he had severe problems either. I think he was a father that at the time made a bad judgement thought he was doing what he had to do to protect his daughter.
     
  8. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    the victim's brother & mother say he was a wonderful person ... ok, he injected a 15/16 year-old girl with drugs, even once while she was asleep (!) ... she lost 40 lbs. while she was with him ... he threatened her life and that of her family

    that's not 'problems', that's illegal and dangerous and disgusting

    I can totally understand the father's frustration after the police wouldn't help him & all his other attempts to save his daughterl however, the father should not have brought a gun with him and needs to pay his debt ...

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prairies/sask-father-guilty-of-manslaughter-in-death-of-daughters-boyfriend/article2036863/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=National&utm_content=2036863
     
  9. Sonya610

    Sonya610 Former Member

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    Okay so the father presumably had the 24 year old come over for Christmas while he as "dating" the 15 year old daughter?

    That means the family accepted the relationship, then later decided it wasn't okay. The boyfriend wasn't some "stranger" that just came and took the daughter away, he apparently knew the family and there was a relationship. I think that does change things.
     
  10. marycarney

    marycarney Inactive

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    All four of my children (ages 16-31) know - without a doubt - that should they choose to involve themselves in ANY type of illegal activity, that their Mama will be the first to rat them out to LE.

    One of my kids was pinched for underage drinking in college. I let her sit in jail all weekend so she's know what it was like. Monday morning (when they let the kids from the weekend out - I did NOT post bail) she was out at 7 and I made sure she was in class at 8. She paid her own fine.

    Guess what? She's now a responsible, gainfully employed college graduate. With a story to tell.
     
  11. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    I was just reading something about sex trafficking...

    And this father felt like a complete failure, so he did what he did knowing he'd have to pay for it, and he will pay his debt. I hope he comes out OK. I'm glad they reduced it to manslaughter. It's just very sad.
     
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    I completely agree, murder will not solve his problems, what happens next time his daughter picks another boyfriend he thinks is unsuitable
     
  13. Snoopster

    Snoopster Well-Known Member

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    There are a lot of great comments here that have made me think.

    I am against violence (as you might have guessed by my signature quote) however the one situation where I could see myself hurting another is if they were threatening to kill an innocent/helpless person (including my children, obviously!) Could I actually kill someone in this circumstance? I'm not really sure....but if it were an extreme do or die situation, I'm a pretty tough cookie, so I'm guessing I could. I don't think that this particular case applies though. I would find other means to hopefully resolve the problem. I would call every media outlet that I could find. I would hound social services and law enforcement. Whatever it took...I would do it. I think Mr. Walker went too far. I do have some empathy for him though.

    As a side note, I am surprised that Mr. Walker had a handgun. I think it's pretty rare for Canadians to own handguns. Those that are not restricted must be registered, and, it's just not a part of our culture. (O.K., perhaps I am naive! But, I don't think I know a single person who owns one. Although, many Canadians, particularly in rural areas, own rifles, for hunting or farming-related purposes.)
     

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