GUILTY Canada - Liana White, 29, Edmonton AB, 12 July 2005 - #4

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  1. Daisy

    Daisy New Member

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    I was following the Liana White thread (thanks to all of you who have kept us up-to-date on that). I was wondering if there have been any further developments, any news, etc.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. PrayersForMaura

    PrayersForMaura Help Find Maura Murray

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    Autopsy is being done this morning at 9am, last I heard.
    There's a few new posts in the discussion thread.
    I, too, have been following this case, and unfortunately as many of us suspected, the husband has been arrested. :(
     
  4. Daisy

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    I have missed completely everything on this! I didn't know she had been found nor that her husband has been arrested! Do you have any links to media coverage on this that I can read?

    BTW, thanks for responding!

    PS: I'll peek in at the discussion thread as well. Thanks!
     
  5. Mellen

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    The thread has been moved to the Missing/Located Discussion Forum.
     
  6. Daisy

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    Thanks! Found it! PrayersForMaura - so far they've got some good media links there...I'll snoop around there. Thanks again, you guys!
     
  7. CW

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    Continue on :)
     
  8. PrayersForMaura

    PrayersForMaura Help Find Maura Murray

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    Windchime ... I like your Minnie Mouse! Are you getting married?? I would assume that is why you're counting days and if so, congrats to you!!! :)
     
  9. spygirl

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    Ok -- I want to pose this question again: If Liana's body is too decomposed to determine a cause of death, then how can her body show signs of a struggle?

    And based on this info, how did LE come up with a charge of 2nd degree? I'm thinking that Michael spilled some details, and LE based the charge on that. He probably made up some big sob story about what happened.

    Should be interesting to see if he pleads guilty/not guilty.

    Also, Jess's news conference post is a helpful reference; I bumped it up on the last page of part 3.
     
  10. CaribouKid

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    I am speculating that the wounds so tiny, refers to strangulation marks on the neck which after rigormortus and extreme decomposation, shows up as tiny prick marks.

    What bugs me is the comment, that other wounds possibly did not attribute to death, which wants me to think, it was of a sexual nature to look like a sexual predator.
     
  11. newtv

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    I agree- the first thing that comes to my mind as I think about this is if the body was so decomposed and there were tiny marks and so on- he had to have thought about this ahead of time..how do you hatch such an elaborate-fool proof cover up without having a criminal mind? How do you go thru thre motions of grief and shock and anger if you had not premeditated how to get away with a murder?
    I do not understand anyone getting second degree murder if they engage in an elaborate coverup-right there it tells me something about the persons ability and intention to deceive.
    How do you pull off a perfect "cover-up" (so that you cannot be charged with a type of murder), if you have never thought ahead how to do that?
    I know what everyone will be saying..he is guilty of a first degree coverup not first degree murder..but still I wouldnt know how to do it without research..
    I hope they find a way to throw the book at this guy and lock him up for many years to come.

    As Caas said, the creep should come clean and stop playing games so that the family can know what the hey happened and begin to heal. I bet he is counting on convincing a jury he did not do it.
     
  12. newtv

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    Police stymied by cause of death..they may never know.
    EDMONTON -- An important piece of the puzzle in the death of a pregnant Edmonton woman may never fall into place for investigators.

    Despite further tests by the city's medical examiner, police admitted yesterday they may never know exactly what killed Liana White, 29, whose badly decomposed body was found in a ditch northwest of the city last weekend.


    http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Londo...142032-sun.html
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    Originally Posted by Jess
    These are just notes on the news conference. I am typing as they speak.
    Detective Michael Campeau-- lead investigator

    confirms it is Liana White
    cannot give a time of death
    cannot charge a person in Canada with the death of an unborn child
    EDP had never gone to the house before
    no criminal record
    record with the military
    media - put investigation under stress
    there has been a policeman working on this file - every single minute
    will not comment where the murder was committed
    preliminary search of the house - found nothing
    cause of death is undetermined
    state of decomposition --more tests must be done
    body shows signs of a struggle
    they always knew where he was when he was searching
    half ton truck - removed from scene-- vehicle left where her body found
    financial difficulties
    comments on tv -- out of the norm of a way a suspect acts
    no polygraph
    she was not fully clothed
    person of interest- from the get go -- look at the family first- not as a suspect - later on in the week he became one
    search warrants being prepared for financial situation
    Both families - are devestated
    tragic for both families
    Liana's mom is not doing well at all-- thinks she has custody of Ashley
    second time in house - forensic team has over 150 exhibits - at the house, SUV,field
    house was pristine - not a red flag
    2nd degree - no evidence of any planning
    Sunday night-- he was arrested - lawyer caution/rights just after 4
    He exercised those rights
    murder took place between the 11th and the 12th
    timeframe - times are different between him and the witnesses
    last seen by ? ( someone else) at midnight
    no evidence of any other person involved
    paternity not questioned
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    Liana White will be buried on Wednesday, July 27th. the Royal Alex has set up a trust fund for Ashley. Donations may be made at any TD branch

    Global Morning News
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    Originally Posted by Casshew
    New article this morning...not much new info...

    http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/...mily_050718.jpg

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...?hub=TopStories

    Look at that sweet baby Ashley... now without a Mother and a murderer for a Dad :mad:
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  13. newtv

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    thanks windchime-hope you dont mind but I brought over some of the posts from just this am so we have them on this thread-since we will likely be here for a few days and its hard to go back and find things once a new part is started.
     
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    Liana's obituary

    Please add a note of condolence if you wish. Her family is having a very hard time and any support would be nice.

    :blowkiss:
     
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    done- thx:)
     
  16. Casshew

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    Thats a really nice photo of Liana on the obituary page.

    I hope Mike White does the right thing and pleads guilty :behindbar
     
  17. newtv

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    that would be the decent thing to do-but something tells me that if he was going to be decent she wouldnt be dead..and if he was going to be decent after the death he would have called 911 and been a man..however, maybe if the families put emotional pressure on him or he is offered a deal he wll.
     
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    Well it happened with Mark Hacking... so I am crossing my fingers for Mike White, hopefully he is clost to his family and they talk to him. Besides he is in Canada and chances are he will walk free again one day :bang:
     
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    totally agree with your hope..and i hope so too
     
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    From a legal point of view, a person usually does not plead guilty to a crime, they take their chances with a jury. People who murder usually are not ethical people.

    Especially with a crime that has a minimum of 25 years in Prison.

    With all of the circumstances surrounding the death of his wife, there will be a lot of unanswered questions. No weapon, other suspects, reasonable doubt, cause of death, timeline, etc. Even if the Crown has as strong case, the defendant rolls the dice,what does he have to lose.

    I would be SHOCKED if this man pleaded guilty. That would probably only happen with a plea bargain and a lesser parole period in exchange for.

    Scott P did not plead guility and they only charged him with a crime(same as White) when LE positivly knows the person is dead.

    If you don't have a body, the person is still missing and the defence will state: No one knows if this person is dead, they could be on a beach in Hawaii soaking up the sun, not wanting to be found.

    With the finding of a body, a whole diffferent story...........
     

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