Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #15

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  1. PhilAShowe

    PhilAShowe Member

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    ...very possible, but maybe not.
     
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    he has a weird voice. maybe B really did not care for either of his parents and he did not want to be like them ever. most teenagers rebel against their parents, but wow. I am recalling the picture of B at work with his father at a construction site, and then the presents: computer, airsoft gun, expensive cologne. his father keeps saying that he loved him and that he was "a little me." so the murder, destruction, suicide was just one long rage-filled escape from his family?
     
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    Australian tourist reportedly shot dead in New Zealand

    Maybe it was to start a trend.. ….
     
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    SHE went there btw
     
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    scrappinkat Well-Known Member

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    The camper would have had closed cell foam insulation, along with a host of other combustibles in it. That would have made the fire burner hotter and longer resulting in dented and twisted steel.
     
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    SnooperDuper Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but did the other Dodge have a fiberglass camper on it when it was burned?
     
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    I wonder, does it make a difference to the intensity and temperature of heat emitted from the blaze when a fiberglass camper was resting in the box and ontop the cab portion of a burning truck? Without knowing the answer, I think a comparison to another burned truck w/o camper might be unreliable. JMO
     
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    Australian tourist shot dead in New Zealand

    In this event, what do you think, statistically, will be the profile of the shooter? a middle aged woman, with 2.5 children, a part time job, and 2 yr old car, with pink nailpolish, or , say, a young disgruntled , entitled, cranky, white male, who's father absconded, and mother bought him up as a single parent, under tough circumstances, didn't finish high school well, didn't go to college, or university, probably currently unemployed, probably a New Zealander, probably not a tourist, probably a solo shooter, but perhaps not travelling alone.

    Possibly virginal, possibly slightly on the social services radar, yet not quite on the police radar, perhaps..

    Probably a hobbyist shooter, probably been given a gun as a gift when younger...

    bets, anyone? .
     
  9. webbie

    webbie On Time Out

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    À-propos of nothing...

    In my view, their ultimate motive was suicide. They wanted to die.

    But before they die, they wanted to play…. they made the game more real by making themselves fugitives. That’s why they killed perfect strangers who were…. at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Then it was GAME ON!

    Off they went, at war with the environment, trying to escape the army, no less.
    For days, and days, and days and weeks!
    Did they know they had the world’s attention too?

    They ended it as they had planned.
    I see them facing each other… 1 - 2 - 3

    For all of that, I believe they were partners in crime. I can’t see one leading the other. They were friends for so long.

    They will become some sort of cult figures in some fringe spot
    They will remain heartless ruthless killers, owing their infamy to a senseless act.
     
  10. PhilAShowe

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    Count how many that have not been in a smashup here, have a bent frame and buckled roof: burned out cars - Google Search
     
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    Moriarty Verified Federal Investigator

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    You may be right, @SteveP, and we have no evidence to suggest sexual assault, but these descriptions sound very much like the anger-retaliatory type of sexual attacker. Including the viciously shooting a victim in the face...
     
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    1987 Former Member

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    we have before and after photos of the guys truck. this link is just the after photos of random burnt cars, who knows how they looked before.
     
  13. otto

    otto Verified Expert

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    We don't know that anyone was shot in the face. The road worker said there was foam on Chynna's mouth, and her family said that it had to be a closed casket funeral. Without doubt, there was violence.
     
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    I'm with you on this one.. Sometime in the future, someone will write a song about them, , how the Mounties harassed and chased them down, cornering them, pushing them into their existential end. It makes a good story.

    And there will be the real dingbats who copy , as copyists are prone to do.

    I think they had their little ears glued to the car radio's 24/7 as they tootled across the entire continent. It wasn't just the weather reports they craved. They needed to know who was watching.

    And that ties in with no communication, at some stage, they both discarded their phones, as a pact. A huge sacrifice. It was just them. And it punished mum and dad, too, in ways un-numbered. That'll show 'em. Kam and Bry against the world. Till the world , as the world is prone to do, pushes back.
     
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    You can't infer anything from it being a "closed casket," though you are of course still free to speculate.
     
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    SBM

    Great point. Same act, different motivation...
     
  17. webbie

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    Is it possible that they left nothing, no word behind?
    Did they make sure their phones would never be found or did they just play the game for their benefit alone?
     
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    Not speculating, just pointing out that nothing is known about injuries beyond violence - gun violence, to be exact.
     
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    I think it was probably more for a personal audience of 2--Kam and Bryer--and they may never have left any explanation. Neither of them seemed to have been big social media users before the spree, actually, so I don't know that advertising their actions was something that appealed to them in general as much as it may other people.
     
  20. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Yikes Troops this is too coincidental.
    An Australian man has been shot dead while on holiday on New Zealand's North Island.
    The tourist was sleeping inside a campervan with a Canadian woman when a stranger began banging on the window at 3.20am local time (1.30am AEST).
    The Australian, 33, was then shot several times, and the Canadian woman, 32, fled.

    Australian tourist shot dead in New Zealand
     
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