CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #5

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  1. sleuth3000

    sleuth3000 Well-Known Member

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    Pure speculation, dont think I believe this myself but wonder what you think:

    They set out actually with the intention of looking for work, not necessarily murder or crime at all, thought of themselves as badasses because of the media they chose, testosterone etc, thought the couple was an easy mark to make a few bucks on a dark night, something went awry and couple is killed. panic sets in and they flee, kill the man in carjacking gone wrong, continue to flee in a panic.

    Variables on the above
    -"looking for work" could have been robbery or some sort of crime from the get go, so they could be prepared and have weapons (obvs they do) but somehow things dont go as planned and their actions now are still motivated by panic on some level
    -possibly they killed the man purposefully thinking him some sort of witness, or thinking already in too deep etc.

    idk something just doesnt add up to me about them going on a killing spree or murder being its own motivation, or there would be more violence? Possible there are victims we dont know about yet but it seems theyve had alot of opportunities to harm more people, or put a better way they seem to be trying to hide not going on a rampage, idk just thinking aloud really
     


  2. FactFinder3000

    FactFinder3000 Well-Known Member

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    According to ICBC.com, the following is one of the requirements for driving with a learner's:

    "Supervisor age 25+ with a valid Class 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 licence. He or she must sit beside you in the front passenger seat."
     
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  3. sleuth3000

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    IDK, I think thats just part of his coat. I would be more suspicious if I wasnt pretty sure his hands are empty a few seconds before when hes right under the camera
    If he did have something in his hands he pulled it out of his coat and put it right back in, as he didnt reach anywhere else.
    But I'm pretty sure its his coat. look at the "wallet" and go back frame by frame, keep your eyes on it and im sure youll see it turn into part of his coat
     
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  4. Westfield

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    What is the motive, I keep thinking?
     
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  5. Kubirai

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    Yes. Another WS member found a potential relative, but it could be another guy from Port Alberni who came to work at Keeyask.
     
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    I figured that camera was from some artifact advertising stuff in the store outside on the pavement.


    On Friday, these boys look like they believed they were not only winning, but way ahead of the game, whatever that particular game may be that they are playing in their heads. There is nothing shy or hasty about them, but I do wonder what they look like now.

    Not so damn hot, I bet.

    A week in the bush, any bush, be it Canadian or Patagonian has a tendency to break off all the veneer of what one thought was 'civilised' progress.

    And these blokes do not have weight or muscle to lose, they are stretched thin, even in that vid clip they look not so sparky and just a bit feral , as well.
     
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  7. huntergerrard

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    I'm wondering if the RCMP actually believe they've left the area, or they're saying they've left the area to relieve pressure and let the guys come out and make a mistake.
     
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    I should have shared this long ago for you guys. You might have to change your app store to canada though.

    If you want to see what its like around Gillam or any other place the manhunt goes, download this app, it provides a canada wide map, but you can also click to download topo maps. It will show you what the suspects and LE are dealing with in and around Gillam

    Topo Maps Canada by David Crawshay
    ‎Topo Maps Canada
     
  9. Jessthinkin

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    Here’s the relevant snip from the article... I’m glad I found it; I’ve looked thru so many articles but this local Alberni paper is the one with this specific info:
    Both McLeod and Schmegelsky were said to have graduated from VAST, an alternative school in Port Alberni, over the last two years.
    https://www.albernivalleynews.com/n...omicide-suspicious-death-spotted-in-manitoba/
     
  10. Gardenista

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    But at what timestamp does he pick up the item?
     
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  11. Gina20

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    Different rules in different provinces as they cross the country. But they make their own rules.
     
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  12. NorthernWild

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    Satellite makes reasonably fast internet reasonably affordable in the north and a lot of people have it. Xplornet’s basic satellite package in for a Gillam, MB postal code is $60/mo for 5 Mbps which is enough to stream HD video. Source: enter a Gillam MB postal code at www.xplornet.com to see what plans are available.
     
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    Well, if they want to be true survivalists, they shouldn't be logging on to games or phones IMO
     
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  14. Kubirai

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    In that simple scenario, they were indeed looking for jobs in Alberta and Yukon.

    But they came across a blue van parked on the side of the highway, very early morning of July 15.
     
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    Only with good cell service (the reason the term SIM is in there).
     
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  16. Gina20

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    About that Meadow Lake Co-op. There's more than one store. There's also a seasonal store. I think we're seeing merged footage.
     
  17. I don’t know. I have to believe that the RCMP know about any visible Gillam area relatives/connections by now and are scouring internet records for any that are below the surface.
     
  18. SnooperDuper

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    There seems to be quite a lot of news articles describing them as "inseparable" best friends. That implies they spent a lot of time together.
     
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  19. Jessthinkin

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    Maybe a burner phone?
     
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    An avid outdoorsman for over 40 years, Len Dyck conducted a great deal of his field research while camping. So, his compact, fuel-efficient Rav4 SUV would have been well-outfitted for basic survival. It also seems that the torching of the vehicles that no longer serve them is both a big eff you to the RCMP, and also 'Lookee at us; we're long gone. Aren't we awesome?' for the rest of us.
     
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