Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #9

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  1. Diezelmonster

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    Which, by vehicle, is an overnight trip. Something they have already done. Not saying its them, balance says it isn't, but the snark is strong... :rolleyes:
     
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    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    Welcome to Websleuths Diezelmonster!
     
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    That is interesting and thanks for the map.

    I see the driving distance from there to Gillam is about 7 hours and Google maps shows an alternate "transit" icon that shows it would take 18 hours by transit. So maybe they had two options to get there if that is them in that house.
     
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    Thank you! I'm here because this case brought me here! Cheers.
     
  6. I’ve spent time in both communities. The smilie face is there because, if you know the area, saying that The Pas is “just down the highway” from Gillam elicits a smile, that’s all. It’s the opposite of snark. For all I know, you live in Jamaica and, like many people here, are having trouble with the distances. It’s a very long, major drive on what are not the world’s greatest roads.
     
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    Like I said, on a balance of probabilities it is not. However, if they have a GPS they could be in any number of bush towns:
    1. Ilford; or
    2. Kelsey;

    Even to get back to the highway would be a two-ish day ruck around the lake, following the shoreline. That is more than doable. People are surprisingly resilient when required to be. If they have a bag of rice, jerky, etc they could do that. The Nelson is a fast river - water is more than fine to drink.
     
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    Sure is.
     
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    Right! Thank you! :)
     
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    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    I lean strongly toward your POV. It is supported by what is now quite a string of millenial-murderers from similar situations or backgrounds. Relative deprivation is real. They may not have started out consciously intending to suicide by police, but it must surely be on their menu of options at this point (as opposed to ending it alone in the woods - although I can think of scenarios where they might make that decision).

    Which option will make them more legendary? Many a human has decided on a course of action that was life-ending, with a view to being remembered, being famous, being a legend. These two have shown ability to take on multiple personae within games, always seeking to "win" or at least, be known within the game.

    If they're in the process of starvation, and prison seems worse than death, they need to show up with their weapons to get their suicide by police in Canada, it seems to me. As time goes on, death by misadventure while trying to accomplish this is a real possibility.
     
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    Nobody mistook a bear for 2 teens, 1 in camo running into the woods. It either happened, or was a lie. I'd think if any 2 people were rummaging in a dump, then suddenly darted into the woods... there would be evidence of their existence.
     
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    It takes a long time to starve. About three weeks. For a fit kid, a bit longer - even while expending calories moving. As an example, ranger selection (rasp) limits candidates to ~1500 calories a day - all while performing air assault and mountain ops over two months.
     
  15. Or, as is often the case with eyewitness accounts, just mistaken and maybe embellished in an attempt to please.
     
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    Danielle McMaster is a search volunteer with Bear Clan Patrol in York Landing - confirms one of the men spotted by her group of volunteers was wearing a camouflage shirt, like teen suspect Bryer Schmegelsky.

    Alexis Daish (@LexiDaish) | Twitter

    Later a police spokesperson said, "Our officers on the ground have not made contact with the individuals, and so we are not yet in a position to confirm that these are the wanted suspects".

    I saw the search volunteer interviewed on TV and she said the men were seen at the dump.
     
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    Tarika One of the snoop sisters

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    All year round for Treaty but must be for social, food or ceremonial.
     
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    Do we have an exact map point for the Cold Lake Rav4 towing incident?
     
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