Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #9

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  1. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I’m not convinced of that; it’s more the principle of the whole thing.

    The downside is that it delayed tips coming in regarding the couple and that van, tips that began to flow right after “murder” was mentioned.
     


  2. srper2

    srper2 Well-Known Member

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    Just my thoughts: When I read that they left saying they were heading to Whitehorse, but no actual confirmation they got there, as well as saying they wanted to make money, it did run through my mind if they had really planned to go to the Fortnite video game tournament in US where people can win heaps of money from having good survival skills in the game! They left with time to even go to Whitehorse and Alberta and still get there, until their plans changed drastically. Does a Canadian need a passport to go into the US? But probably not as they appeared to mainly play on steam according to reports?
     
  3. Xyzzia

    Xyzzia Well-Known Member

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    Was LD on his way to Camping or on his way back from camping.
    To Camping would be he was traveling north. From camping he would be traveling south.
     
  4. Tarika

    Tarika One of the snoop sisters

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    His vehicle was going south iirc
     
  5. Gina20

    Gina20 Well-Known Member

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    This is what I said a few threads back.
    They should have called it a double shooting from the beginning. No need to release names or even gender.

    To many, a suspicious death nowadays means an opioid overdose.
     
  6. Tarika

    Tarika One of the snoop sisters

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    DBM
     
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    CanadianMade Former Member

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    Yes, you need a passport to cross the border.
     
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    I think the timeline was that it took the RCMP 5 days from when the bodies were found to classify the 2 deaths as being from 'gun violence'.

    The ID process of the 2 victims took 3 days.

    So, start the finish almost a week to let the public know that 'gun violence' had been responsible for 2 deaths on the Alaska Hwy.
     
  9. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Jeepers. That’s way worse than I thought.
     
  10. srper2

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    Just a theory, not a rumour......Or why Mr. LD was out exploring, stole fuel from his vehicle, put it into their own and realised too late it was not compatible (petrol, not diesel or vice versa), flipped out and went back to try to steal his vehicle in anger and frustration and either deliberately injured him/killed him, or accidentally ran over him when leaving? (If it was dark, they could have ran over him if they couldn't see him or something). It seems Mr D had not unpacked any of his gear for camping, was he camping there, on the way to camp or on the way back - but as usual, the almost complete lack of information makes it so difficult to understand anything...
     
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    Groan .... horrible thought
     
  12. srper2

    srper2 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, really that is too long
     
  13. afitzy

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    Have agreed with you on this point from the beginning.

    I also wonder if RCMP were hesitant because it was peak tourist season and they didn't want to panic people?

    I don't think this should impact public safety announcements but maybe it played a role? Or, maybe because the victims were foreign tourists?

    IDK
     
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  14. Xyzzia

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    Well that's certainly piqued my interest. Maybe

    they knew they couldn't go down to the United States and participate.
    Maybe they decided to 'play a game' up here in Canada?

    I mean.... they actually are doing the 'Ultimate Survival game' now... aren't they?

    People dead, vehicle stolen, vehicles burnt out, purposely or non-perposely showing their faces on videos. Hiding out in the dense forests of Northern Manitoba for a week?
    Not getting caught by the Royal Canadian police, local police, the Canadian military, volunteers, and Canadian citizens...... So far.
    They (supposedly) haven't been seen in a week.

    So far that's quite the "survival game" being played out in Real time with Real People.

    Is it a coincidence fortnite is having the survival game down in the US?
     
  15. Gina20

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    And it only got out that this was a shooting after it hit the news in Australia. They had to tell the Canadian public at that point.
     
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    You know, it could be that the LE identified the sightings at YL as being someone completely unrelated, but they're just not informing the public. Think about it, in Gillam, they had the RAV burning and they searched for days, even checking places for a second time, and that was after arriving only a day after the suspects. But in YL they give up after 24h even though they got there in 20 minutes after the sighting? And the only way for the suspects to go is towards the river where they're pretty much stuck. Giving up the search after all this seems to indicate they're quite sure it was not them.
    On another note, did they actually search in the bush in either Gillam or YL or did they just check along tracks, in abandoned houses etc?
     
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    I'm not so sure how realistically possible Port Alberni to Alberta in such a short time frame actually is. Firstly, there's a fairly challenging drive from PA to the Nanaimo ferry terminal. Then there's the initial reliance on the ferry schedule from Vancouver Island to the mainland - a journey of over 1 and 1/2 hours IF you don't have to wait for a couple of sailings to even get on the boat in busy summer tourist season. Then there's a pretty arduous journey through the Canadian Rockies which, we'll have to imagine is without traffic delays or roadwork or landslides enroute, all of which are common. All of that will eventually get you to the Alberta border on the Trans Canada, but you're still a very long way away from the Dease Lake area. Doing all that in 2 days and a bit would certainly be a challenge. Not impossible but you'd pretty much have to totally discount taking time for food and sleep, etc. Two people spelling each other could possibly manage the journey ok, but somebody would probably have to be awakened to participate in the killing spree. IMO
     
  18. NorthernWild

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    Interesting theory. I think running over him accidentally is unlikely. Night is very short up here this time of year and it doesn’t get very dark.
     
  19. Xyzzia

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    The gas thing that you talked about.... That is certainly plausible. Cuz people are wondering why did they burn their own truck. And if they were trying to escape that wouldn't be the vehicle to do it in because of the gas. So they could have went back and stole gas and realize that it wouldn't run now with the wrong gas and then just torch their vehicle.

    The two guys have been charged with second-degree murder meaning that killing LD was not planned and purposeful. That he could have been out squatting in the bush taking a leak and the young guys went to steal his vehicle and he ran out and they ran over him and then maybe they had to finish off the job by doing something else to him.
     
  20. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Thanks for posting this link. I believe the 600 room vacant construction camp in Gillam (which was searched last week by RCMP) housed the workforce responsible for constructing this project. MOO
     
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