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    Today on Facebook I ran across a pointer to this Change.org petition: https://www.change.org/p/niagara-re...utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

    "My brother Jay Boyle and 5 of his friends went missing 19 years ago this week while out on a boat on a cold windy night on Lake Ontario. No one has seen or heard from them since. Their bodies and the boat were never found...Police say they don't see how the remains could be his given the estimated age of the bones (25-60), and where he was found..."

    The petition shows a photo that appears to be an exact match on the jeans. But Jay Boyle was only 19, considerably younger than the UID's age range, and apparently the remains were found on the other side of Niagara Falls from where the boys were last seen. (Though I thought that hydroelectric plant was just below the falls.)

    There is also apparently a second body found the same day in the same location, but I haven't been able to find anything yet.

    Here's the Websleuths thread about Jay Boyle and his friends: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?31110-Canada-6-Missing-Teens-Pickering-Ontario-1995

    p.s. It's not a new petition, just new to me.
     
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    I hadn't run across that term before, but yes, that's them.
     
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    Those families are getting a dreadful raw deal from the completely irrational decision by LE(?) to not even try and ID the remains. What kind of insanity is at play here? It's simply outrageous!!
     
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    Here is the Sir Adam Beck Hydro Generating Station: https://goo.gl/maps/aVkVj

    It is downstream of Niagara Falls, so it appears it could have been reached by boat from Lake Ontario (barring obstructions). The river flows south to north, though, so the remains couldn't have drifted there naturally. They could have come from upstream, however, including the US side. There's also the question of whether the river ices over and if so was it still icy on March 17.

    I can totally see a bunch of drunken joyriders in the middle of the night saying "hey, let's go up and see if the waterfall is still frozen," or something like that.
     
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    tarabull Life is a puzzle.

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    Ariel views of Sir Adam Beck Hydro Generating Stations 1 & 2:
    http://www.nflibrary.ca/nfplindex/show.asp?id=246952&b=1

    Aerial view of tops of Sir Adam Beck 1 & 2, and Robert Moses Power Plant:
    http://www.nflibrary.ca/nfplindex/show.asp?id=99844&b=1

    I'm confused about the water intake channel...that is different from the river no?

    :thinking:
     
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    Usually the intake channel is the concrete watercourse that guides the river water into the power plant. it's got grates over it to keep logs and other debris from getting into the generating equipment; I presume that was the location where they found him.
     
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    Been there many times. The intake channel for this facility comes from above the falls on the Canadian side. They reversed part of the Welland River to get water to flow in from the Niagara River. He could have ended up in the channel from the Niagara River or anywhere along the banks of the channel, there is no grating or anything. It is a large ditch several miles long with a number of bridges over it. Best to look at aerial pix to understand. He did not end up there from below the falls.
     
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    I'm looking at the aerial view. I see the canal but it doesn't appear to go as far as the generating plant.

    p.s. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just having trouble seeing it.
     
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    Hiya Carbuff,
    The canal looks like it ends because the water goes down vertically there to feed the two Beck generating stations. It feeds the reservoir by the famous floral clock as well, for times of low flow. If he was found in that canal, no way he got there from Lake Ontario or the Niagara River below the falls. The canal is at a much higher level.
     
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    Ah! Thanks, I see what you mean.
     
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    No updates that I could find.

    Evidence would support a conclusion that the law enforcement agency with jurisdiction in this case doesn't have resolving this case as a high priority, though you never know what's going on behind the scenes.
     

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