CANADA - shooter in RCMP vehicle and uniform, 23 killed - Portapique, NS *suspect dead*

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  1. Marysmith

    Marysmith Well-Known Member

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    Omg - how awful!!
     
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    HMSHood Admiral-Class Battlecruiser

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    As I have said, he is likely an injustice collector.
     
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    Yep and sadly I cant count how many times you have said that :(
     
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    The isolation would have been so bad for his psyche if that was the case... which I agree with you he is IMO.
     
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    I can see shades of Stephen Paddock.
     
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    Sadly, it has been case with every mass killer, terrorist, and bully. I fear the death toll is climb. :(
     
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    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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    Since first hearing this dreadful news, there has been nothing but more heart-wrenching updates.

    My deepest prayers are for the families who are enduring the most awful suffering and loss of their loved ones.

    I believe the love and closeness of these Nova Scotian communities are surrounding these families with support, strength, love and compassion.

    They will ensure that no one grieves alone.

    Each one of their lost loved ones will always be remembered, in their own beautiful "light".
     
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  10. Lore Listener

    Lore Listener So many crimes, so little time

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    Very interesting article regarding the psychology of the killer's law enforcement impersonation.

    “It happens far more often than we think it does,” said University of Colorado Denver criminologist Mary Dodge, whose research on police impersonation has turned up more than 300 cases around the world. “It’s an easy crime of opportunity.”

    She found that when wannabes do cross the line into criminality, it’s because there’s been a challenge to their authoritarian nature that they must confront.

    As familiar as she is with the archetype, Dr. Dodge couldn’t come up with any analogous case. “This is an outlier,” she said.

    Nova Scotia shooter’s profile an ‘outlier’ to the police impersonator archetype
     
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    Canada seems to have outliers, like the former Canadian Military Colonel (Russell Williams) who flew for the Queen and then became a serial abductor /rapist /murderer in his 50s.

    Being an outlier just means he knew he was abnormal and kept it to himself as much as possible while quietly choosing / pursuing the wrong direction.
     
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    It's like he did both, as a perfectionist first he revered and then he co-opted.

    From the article:

    “Often there was no nefarious intent,” said University of Western Ontario criminologist Mike Arntfield, who encountered a few people fitting the description during his 15 years with the London Police Service. “It was compulsion, part of a broader fantasy world they had developed. They were forever dancing on the line of personating an officer.”
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    The shooter’s background bears the hallmarks of two distinct but opposing personality types familiar to police: the wannabe, who generally reveres law enforcement, and the criminal impersonator, who co-opts the badge for illicit purposes.
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    But it wasn’t just any replica cruiser. A picture of the car shows an exact copy of a modern Ford Taurus RCMP cruiser, right down to the rims, decals and lights – what’s collectively known as the car’s “strike package.”
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    As well, he had two handguns and a shotgun similar to police-issue firearms. “He was an enthusiast,” Mr. Rushton said. “He was a perfectionist, wanted to have everything just right.”​

    Nova Scotia shooter’s profile an ‘outlier’ to the police impersonator archetype
     
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    Mistywaters posted something earlier today about another couple that saw him at the door with guns and hid. I wondered why he didn't set their house on fire. Was that the couple that called 911 to report the name of the crazed killer?

    He killed some people intentionally, and others simply because they were there.
     
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    Didn't he kill is ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend? That makes it domestic. Did the domestic situation drive him to unreasonable anger, covid-19 self-isolation tipped him over the edge?

    He may be one of those people who perceives offences and personal injuries, and reacts as though they have happened regardless of reality.
     
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    Snipped

    The thing about extreme perfectionists, they are rigid. They can't bend or be flexible, so when something isn't absolutely perfect by their definition, they can snap.

    His standards are likely high and noble, in his eyes. When he heard about a woman in need of dentures, he supplied them. But I suspect he wasn't being generous as much as he was bestowing his approval on someone he deemed worthy of charity. my opinion

    He can make a patrol car look perfect, but when a person is imperfect (like cops who park in his parking lot), he can't control it except by snapping and punishing them - making them know they are not perfect. He was such a jerk about that parking incident - that tells us so much about him.

    So either something in his personal life went wrong or something with his business went wrong (or both) that he couldn't control and that seemed wrong, imperfect, unfair. (My hunch is financials or business will be related to his anger.)

    And by "snapped," I don't mean instantly snapped. This was a planned massacre. I mean he couldn't accept something and the only alternative was to "snap" into extreme reaction to perceived injustice, imperfection.

    jmo
     
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    I pieced together a list of 20 possible victims in different locations. All have been named in MSM (CBC, CTV, Global, the Chronicle Herald, and others) as either deceased or missing.


    Portapique 11 victims (late Saturday night)


    Lisa Kierstead McCully
    , schoolteacher in Debert (mother of 2 school-aged children)

    Jamie Blair
    Greg Blair

    (2 young sons and dog, Zoe, survived)

    Emily Tuck, 17 and parents
    Jolene Oliver
    Aaron Tuck

    (moved to NS from Alberta to be near Aaron’s mother)

    Dawn Madsen Gulenchyn
    Frank Gulenchyn

    (recently retired to the area from Oshawa, ON)

    Elizabeth Joanne Thomas
    John Joseph Zahl

    Portapique Beach Road, home burned


    Corrie Ellison, 42, social worker, Truro — was visiting his father in Portapique.



    Wentworth Valley 4 victims (Sunday morning -- 8am)

    Alanna Jenkins
    Sean Mcleod
    (possibly acquainted with shooter but they weren’t friends per Alanna’s father, Dan Jenkins).
    Resided on Hunter Road, West Wentworth

    Tom Bagley, retired fire-fighter (went to help neighbours Alanna and Sean when he noticed their home was ablaze)

    Lillian Hyslop, out for her regular morning walk on Highway 4, Wentworth



    Debert 2 victims (Sunday, mid-morning)

    Heather O’Brien (Truro VON nurse, mother, grandmother)

    Kristen Beaton (Truro VON, leaves behind husband and young son)



    Shubenacadie 3 victims (Sunday, mid-late morning)

    Gina Marie Goulet denturist, two time cancer survivor. (*** not confirmed by MSM, but I’m reading on SM that Gina’s German Shepherd, Ginger, was shot twice but survived and is home with friends and her Chihuahua, Ellie, is okay ***)

    Joey Webber (from Wyses Corner) leaves behind his partner and 3 daughters — went to run an errand Sunday morning and didn’t come home.

    Const. Heidi Stevenson, 23 year RCMP veteran, leaves behind her husband and two children
     
  19. Bravo

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    Thank You Unscripted for taking the time to do this ^
     
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    Have Alanna and Sean been found? I think they are mentioned in my last linked article as missing. I may be an update behind. Jmo
     
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