Carnival Ship Stranded in Gulf of Mexico

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  1. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Stranded cruise passengers facing dirty conditions

    By JUAN A. LOZANO, AP
    41 minutes ago

    HOUSTON — Family members of passengers onboard a disabled cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico say their loved ones are trying to take the hot and dirty conditions in stride.

    Jimmy Mowlam told The Associated Press on Tuesday that his son Rob and new daughter-in-law got married onboard the Carnival Triumph on Saturday and are among the roughly 3,100 stranded passengers.

    He says his son told him by phone Monday night that many passengers are sleeping on deck because the lack of ventilation made it too hot to sleep inside.

    He says his son says passengers were mostly "taking it in stride."

    Other passengers have described more dire conditions, including water and feces on the ship's floors.

    The ship is being towed to Mobile, Ala., and is expected there Thursday...

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20130211/US.Disabled.Cruise.Ship/?cid=hero_media
     
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  3. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    This scares me because we are getting set to take a cruise in a few months...:what:
     
  4. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    DH and I usually cruise every winter, but this year we went to WDW instead. We truly enjoyed the break from being on a ship but planned to cruise next winter. The news about this ship mishap has me rethinking whether or not it's a good idea.
     
  5. montana_16

    montana_16 Active Member

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    This sounds miserable. I've been on two cruises and fortunately had a great time on both.

    These poor people, and they have days more of it to face.
     
  6. SweetT

    SweetT Active Member

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    Sounds like fun! (Sarcasm) :)
     
  7. Show Me

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    I've never wanted to cruise...I get so sea sick. Hubby and I are land lubbers although we love the beach and fishing off shore or from a pier. I've never known anyone who ever had a bad time on a cruise. BIL and his wife took many cruises and enjoyed each one tremendously.

    It's kind of like when you hear of an airplane crash....very rarely happens but nothing is fool proof. Nothing ventured nothing gained. At least they got there money back.
     
  8. keeponsearching

    keeponsearching The mighty Oak was once a little nut that stood it

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    Why couldn't they get them off by using other boats. This is unbelievable. Its 2013, but by all means carnival leave them on a stinky boat. And I am sure what they are telling us is everything is ok, but on a scale 1-10 and 10 being good, its probably a 2. What would happen if a severe storm blew through.. Argh I am never ever going on a cruise :/ It reads other carnivals are dropping off supplies... Why not pick up these people.
     
  9. 21merc7

    21merc7 New Member

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    This is what I am not understanding. There have to be plenty of boats out there in the world for hire. Organize enough and a plan to safely get the passengers out of there, and out of the unsanitary/unsafe conditions. Shouldn't there already be plans for just such a thing in place? It is not like this hasn't happened before.

    I've never been interested in taking a cruise. Not because of these types of accidents. I just can't imagine being stuck in an apartment building laying on its side in the water and having to be with all of those other people all of the time. No escape. Guess I don't like being around a lot of people. I'm sure your tiny cabin is not sound proof either. I already deal with that at home, in my apartment, why would I want to deal with that if I ever had vacation time to do as a I please, lol.
     
  10. Elphaba

    Elphaba Defying Gravity...

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    Those poor people... horrible sanitary conditions and you know the rocking has to be awful, given that the stabilization went out the window when the thing lost its main power. If I was on board, a spot on a deck near a life boat would become my home for the duration of the hellish ride... no way, no how would I want to go into the depths of a rocking, leaning ship.

    Ugh... I have an innate fear of ships, and just when I think I am ready to try to break that fear, something like this pops up in the news, reminding me that my fear is well placed...
     
  11. trigger

    trigger Well-Known Member

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    :seeya: CNN is having a segment on in 8 minutes. They are going to interview family members who received texts/calls from their loved ones while on the cruise.
     
  12. Softail

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    I don't understand why they are towing it to Mobile. It left from Galveston. Why not go back there? Seems like it would be closer. :waitasec:
     
  13. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    When ships are "at sea", there is no fast or easy way for other boats to reach a stranded or crippled vessel. It can take many hours, if not days, for one vessel to reach another. It's not like hopping in your car and driving from Point A to Point B and know exactly when you'll arrive. Weather and sea conditions dictate how fast sailing vessels can travel, and a massive cruise ship doesn't travel quickly - 21/22 knots at top speed in excellent conditions.

    The ships that have dropped off supplies are probably sailing at full capacity as most cruises do at this time of year. There is no room for additional passengers and/or crew members. If there were stateroom vacancies, how would they determine who got to transfer to the other vessel? There is already enough chaos onboard without creating an even worse situation.

    DH and I will be thinking long and hard before we book another cruise. We have 25+ cruises under our belts, but there have been too many incidents in recent years that have us rethinking how we travel. :moo:
     
  14. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    There was a visual shown on one of the media reports about the stranded vessel indicating that strong currents caused the ship to drift in a south-easterly direction. Since the ship can be accommodated in Mobile, that seems to be the port of choice given the location (and sea conditions) of the ship by the time tug boats reached it. :moo:
     
  15. SurfieTX

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    They were interviewing friends/family of those on the boat this morning on the radio. Apparently, it is really, really bad - people are having to relieve themselves in plastic bags and showers. There is literally no food. One day, each passenger got a piece of melon, a piece of toast and some water.

    I understand that trying to move them on another boat is out of the question dangerous, but my gosh, what's the excuse for not providing them food?
     
  16. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Don't they have boats they can load these people into? I don't understand why they are keeping them on the ship?
     
  17. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Lifeboats require power to lower them into the water and would tax what little is left onboard. The lifeboats can be lowered manually, but I doubt that all of the rescue vessels would be operable since the ship is listing (leaning). Lowering any of the lifeboats would put the leaning ship in further risk of ending up on its side or capsizing. The lifeboats wouldn't be able to make it all the way back to land and are for short-term rendevous while help is on the way.

    These rescue vessels are also used for tendering passengers to shore in ports where there aren't docking facilities and the ship is anchored offshore. The lifeboats can be very unstable (and unsafe) in choppy waters, and I think there are unfavorable weather and sea conditions as the ship is being towed into Mobile.
     
  18. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Foods that haven't been kept properly refrigerated/frozen or foods that cannot be properly cooked due to the loss of power are likely not safe for human consumption. The ship leaves the home port with enough food for the duration of each voyage. I suspect that a lot of food was spoiled and circumstances are bad enough without making people sick by serving contaminated foods.
     
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    Anyone who is cruise-savvy- OR, anyone thinking about taking a cruise for the first time- should look up and read the essay entitled "Shipping Out", published by Harper's magazine, and also in a collection of essays, by the late and fabulously gifted writer David Foster Wallace, in 1997. He writes that Carnival is known within the industry as "Carnivore"- cheap and crappy. You get what you pay for. One man on CNN today was talking about his wife on the ship, who had paid a whopping $350.00 (!!) for this cruise.
     
  20. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    The Triumph voyage was only a 4-night sailing, so $350 is probably an average fare. I would bet that some passengers paid less than that if they used a TA or online booking.
     
  21. jjenny

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    Even for that, I would expect a working toilet.:floorlaugh:
     

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