Casey seeing clergy in jail

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by Theonly1, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. Theonly1

    Theonly1 New Member

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    As reported on Nancy Grace...

    Here's what the Florida Statutes say:

    90.505 Privilege with respect to communications to clergy.--

    (1) For the purposes of this section:

    (a) A "member of the clergy" is a priest, rabbi, practitioner of Christian Science, or minister of any religious organization or denomination usually referred to as a church, or an individual reasonably believed so to be by the person consulting him or her.

    (b) A communication between a member of the clergy and a person is "confidential" if made privately for the purpose of seeking spiritual counsel and advice from the member of the clergy in the usual course of his or her practice or discipline and not intended for further disclosure except to other persons present in furtherance of the communication.

    (2) A person has a privilege to refuse to disclose, and to prevent another from disclosing, a confidential communication by the person to a member of the clergy in his or her capacity as spiritual adviser.

    (3) The privilege may be claimed by:

    (a) The person.

    (b) The guardian or conservator of a person.

    (c) The personal representative of a deceased person.

    (d) The member of the clergy, on behalf of the person. The member of the clergy's authority to do so is presumed in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

    History.--s. 1, ch. 76-237; s. 1, ch. 77-77; s. 1, ch. 77-174; ss. 11, 22, ch. 78-361; ss. 1, 2, ch. 78-379; s. 477, ch. 95-147.
     
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  3. Theonly1

    Theonly1 New Member

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    Bolding by me to note that a clergy is not there to pass messages. If so, this would waive the privilege! I mention this because LP alluded on Nancy Grace that Casey could use the clergy to pass messages to her parents. In my opinion using the clergy in this manner would void the privilege.
     
  4. Oakley

    Oakley New Member

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    Yes, and as I recall, whomever the messages might be passed to (e.g., parents, family etc.) could then be subpoenaed (sp?) and must divulge the message under oath.
     
  5. Nana46

    Nana46 Runs with Scissors

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    Do we know if she requested this visit? any way to know this???/

    Also, you can call people to testify under oath...but can you really make them tell the truth? contempt of court I guess I am looking for here.
     
  6. karenmamo

    karenmamo New Member

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    Verbal or written messages?
    Just thinking....
     
  7. Janis396

    Janis396 It's getting dark, too dark to see....

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    IIRC, she can't request a visit, but she can approve or deny when someone requests a visit with her.
     
  8. Oakley

    Oakley New Member

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    It's true you can't make them but it is a serious offense to lie under oath.
     
  9. Duelist Pearl

    Duelist Pearl Round up the posse...we won't stop till we find em

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    Maybe he will put the fear of God in her....highly unlikley though...she is pure evil.
     
  10. wedavis

    wedavis Take it easy!

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    If Casey is turning to Jesus, then I need to go hunt down this article I read by a profiler that predicted this!
     
  11. Where's Andre

    Where's Andre There are no humble opinions

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    If it was requested, it probably would have been arranged via a phone call. In the past, most of these were public-- but I haven't heard recordings lately, not sure if Anthonys succeeded in getting an injunction on releasing calls to the media.

    I recall one of the profilers saying early on that Casey would turn to religion before she "broke down". Not that I'm hopeful of this, but if this was at her request-- I suppose it's a remote possiblity.

    Do you expect clergy to lie? Or martyr themselves by spending time in jail on a contempt charge? I guess it would depend on the clergy member.
     
  12. Duelist Pearl

    Duelist Pearl Round up the posse...we won't stop till we find em

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    I'd expect anything at this point....as time goes on its very hard to be shocked at anything.
     
  13. Short_Stuff

    Short_Stuff New Member

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    I remember that too! There are steps to guilt, and that was one of the last ones. (turning to religion)
     
  14. LeLe1953

    LeLe1953 Former Member

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    What are the other steps of guilt? If turning to religon is the last one, what has KC done before this that is one of those steps?
     
  15. mom4321

    mom4321 New Member

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    maybe they are using clergy to pass messages because cleargy doesnt charge for thier time and Jose charges hundreds and hour.
     
  16. Lake Erie Princess

    Lake Erie Princess New Member

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    I WONDER....and I think they said he does the Sun. prayer vigils....
    He is a Baptist, black Rev., who prays really loud and long...
    for the safe return of Caylee to her G'parents and Momma.

    Dave Lohr ? from the Discovery website recorded one of these when he was
    in Fl. for the last search.(It is on the Disccovery site). This was AFTER the initial reporting to the public from Sheriff Beary which concluded this baby was not among the living.

    Is it optimism from the Rev., denial, saying what Cindy WANTS to hear, or stupidity ?
     
  17. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Proud Army Mom

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  18. bayterrace11360

    bayterrace11360 Former Member

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    Casey is a sociopath. She has no conscience. This is a scam most probably concocted by Jose B. to get messages to the family. I do not believe that she is turning to religion in any way, shape or form.
     
  19. ValleyGirl

    ValleyGirl Help Cure Syringomyelia (www.asap.org)

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    I hope this is ok, if not please delete it. This profiler says that if KC starts seeking religion or speaks of fleeing she may crack and tell what happened:

    and Rescue ยป
    September 11, 2008
    Criminal Profiler Says Casey Anthony is "Punishing Everyone"

    Dr. Deborah Schurman-KauflinLast month, Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, President of the Violent Crimes Institute, LLC, shared her thoughts on Casey Anthony, mother of missing three-year-old Caylee Anthony.



    Visit Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's Website at: www.drdsk.com
     
  20. SeekingJana

    SeekingJana Well-Known Member

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    I read it too!! Somewhere... A criminal profiler said she was likely to turn to religion or exhibit pseudo-religious behavior, not sure which, and there is a huge difference.

    Maria
     
  21. nancy botwin

    nancy botwin Verified Expert

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    Criminal Profiler Says: Casey is Punishing Everyone
    ...Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said that there are signs to look for, which could signify Anthony is getting ready to talk.
    "Look for her to turn to religion and either attempt to or speak of fleeing. When she gets to that point, she is most likely to talk about what really happened."


    A link to the article for those who want to read it.
    Personally, I think Casey takes visits from clergy just so someone will listen to her ridiculous tales and tell her she is loved.
    :furious:
     

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