Thank you, faefrost. Very well said.
IMHO, there isn't a mountain of overwhelming evidence to suggest to a jury that Casey was neglectful BEFORE Caylee was allegedly kidnapped. Rather, from some of the earliest interview transcripts most described her as taking care of Caylee's needs well enough. IIRC, one of Tony's roomies, Nate(?) indicated he'd only seen Casey get mildly upset w/ Caylee for drumming on her leg w/ a drumstick while @ the apartment. Otherwise, they noted that Casey fed Caylee, kept her clean, etc.
Of course, it seems Cindy & George were doing the basic providing while Casey was irresponsible financially. So, Caylee's extended family helped to make most outward appearances fine w/o any obvious neglect.
So...not sure there'd be much to be gained...yet definitely some risk involved...in calling Casey an unfit mother to impugn her character in the courtroom and support her as a murderer. IOW...the charge is murder...stick to proving that one. Keep the most important thing the most important thing. Much, much easier for the jury to consider her behavior AFTER Caylee was allegedly kidnapped to pass their judgement, IMHO.
I actually think ICA's behavior with Caylee was deteriorating - first off, none of her friends who she regularly hung with had kids yet, so their take on motherhood may not be all that relevant - feeding and cleaning aside. Making a 2 year old sit next to mommy on the couch, while mommy plays - rather than run around and act like the baby she was - PPFFTT
Caylee was 2 months shy of her 3rd Birthday and not potty trained. While many 3 year olds aren't, most female children potty train by 2 1/2 years IIRC. An only child who lives with nothing but grown ups generally potty train quite easily - monkey see, monkey do! Had ICA put some effort into this Caylee probably would have been out of diapers months before but another thing that may have come into play - little kids in crises - this is something they can control - nothing momster said or did could make
Cays use the potty if she didn't wanna!
Also, the folks who hung with TL were telling a different story than her older group of friends - she had started smoking dope, she hid out behind TL's closed bedroom door leaving Caylee in a room full of adults that she really didn't know very well, if at all. Caylee even managed to get herself out on the balcony, all by her little lonesome... Not MOTY material IMHO.
No no no...not even Darth Vader or any Sith Lord is touching this one! We don't even need Obi Wan Kenobi saying "This is the lying, stealing murderer you're looking for." That's going to be painfully obvious to the jury.
Nope, the Force is definitely staying out of this one. I can't believe Baez is gong to allow this to go into a courtroom. It'll be the fastest conviction in history - "the jury was only gone five minutes!"
BBM - Really? That long? I'm figuring they aren't even going to have time to sit down - GUILTY as charged, show of hands? 1, 2, 3, 4... etc - Not Guilty? deafening silence from the jurors. OK! GUILTY she is! Even if they count twice, 45 seconds max!
EU, haven't finished the thread yet, but I think you are spot-on here. They want to try and present her post-June 15 behavior as anomalous given her previous behavior. To do this they have to erase questions about her past sexual activity. However, I think the debacle of Rick P's wedding would IMO still be admissible.
Astounding, the lengths to which they are going for this woman, who, in the final analysis, just did what countless "mothers"-against-their-will before her did.
ICA was so predictable, aside from the lengths she was willing to travel to back up her lies - Taking that long walk from the parking lot and down the hallway where her office
wasn't located! But LE had already figured her out! They knew everything she had told them after her name was totally false and then she even admitted she was doing NOTHING to find / help Caylee.
Lies are a lifestyle choice for ICA, when the truth came out, everyone discovered ICA was really no one at all, her whole life was a lie. She killed the only thing that made her special, then dumped her in the swamp.
Stealing is also a lifestyle choice, it enabled her to keep up a
false reality of what she wanted people to think her life was about - instead her life was nothing and she was / is a liar and a thief!
No one cares who ICA was bedding prior to June 16, but it sure does go a long way to painting the picture of ICA's life choices! The fact that she put her baby in those beds too - disgusting!
What's left if HHJP finds for the defense?
We have Sex, Lies and 2 Kinds of Tape - video of ICA at BlockBuster with no Caylee, when she told LE she was out looking for Zanny the Nanny - If that isn't horrible enough - Caylee's little remains are found with 3 pieces of duct tape wrapped around her precious nose and mouth. Literally hours after Caylee is last seen, ICA is with her new Boy Toy, nowhere to go the next morning - she never even got her lazy azz out of bed! Caylee who?
I think HHJP may just use these requests dumped on his door as he is about to begin his vacation - to his advantage. He has a whole week to think about what a chump JB is and he'll be dealing with said chump his first day back! And guess what? Now JB can sweat his dumb decision all the way to 2011!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year JB and CM! How's this working for you tonight!