Catholic Church to open its doors to gay priests

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  1. Casshew

    Casshew Former Member

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    A Vatican document expected to be made public soon says the Church will allow gay men who have lived chastely for three years to be candidates for the priesthood.

    The document, which has been in the works for three years will update Vatican policy which up until now made clear that homosexuals should be barred from the priesthood.

    A senior official with the Vatican, who requested anonymity because the document has not yet been released said the new policy will permit candidates who have lived a chaste life for at least three years before their admission to the seminary.

    The Italian weekly Panorama said in its Friday editions that Pope Benedict XVI approved the document during the summer.

    In a similar report Friday, the National Catholic Reporter said seminary officials will be asked to exercise "prudential judgement."

    Vatican teaching holds that homosexual acts are "intrinsically disordered." The Church, however, says that homosexuals should be treated with compassion and dignity.


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  3. Norma

    Norma Pook

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    And to provide them access to lots of little alter boys to play with.




    Oh - I know that being a homosexual doesn't mean you're a child molestor, but the church does not have a good track record on this.
     
  4. dakini

    dakini Former Member

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    that is very offensive to me.
     
  5. reb

    reb New Member

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    i guess molesting and raping little boys and girls counts as "living chastely"....
     
  6. poco

    poco A cat will blink when struck with a hammer.

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    This is a NEW thing??????
     
  7. Casshew

    Casshew Former Member

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    No actually it's not. But now it's official.
     
  8. reb

    reb New Member

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    LOL!! that's what i thought too. that's, like, OLD news folks, we already knew that... DUH.....!!
     
  9. dakini

    dakini Former Member

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    What is your interpretation of treating an entire group of people "compassionately and with dignity?"
     
  10. Nova

    Nova Active Member

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    Pook, I know you don't mean to be cruel, so let's be clear: in the absence of women as a sexual outlet, a significant percentage of men will respond sexually to other targets, including children and other men. Prisons (and the military whether we admit it or not) prove this all the time.

    There's no reason to believe priests who molest male children are necessarily homosexual. All that is required is that male children be more available to them than, say, adult women, female children, etc.
     
  11. Norma

    Norma Pook

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    Then what are they??

    I'm sorry, I mean no harm at all to anyone who's gay. One of my dearest friends was gay, and we had kids only a few days apart. I trusted her with my son more than I trust anyone else, as she also trusted me.

    What I have a problem with is an organization with a horrible record for protecting children, be they male or female, who looked the other way the whole time. And they still are. And this is also an organization that states that being Gay is wrong in the first place. Why would I want to support anyone who says that?

    The whole point of becoming a priest, according to the catholic church, is that you give up sex for God. Period. Until they change that, there will continue to be problems.
     
  12. Maral

    Maral New Member

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    They are pedophiles. A true pedophile is not attracted to adults, so neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality applies.
     
  13. Mabel

    Mabel Former Member

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    Exactly. They molest little boys because they're attracted to little boys. They don't molest women because it's not women that turn them on. That's why allowing priests to marry would never solve the problem - unless they're allowed to marry young boys. :(
     
  14. Details

    Details Former Member

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    They're attracted to children, to their helplessness. Young girls are molested too, by pedophiles, and by the pedophile priests. But the pedophiles who are priests have less access to the girls - there aren't altar girls, and people ask more questions when a male is around a young girl a lot.

    There's no link between being gay and pedophile any more than heterosexual and pedophile.
     
  15. indigomood

    indigomood Active Member

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    Hi There! Details, I totally agree with your last statement disputing the link between homosexuality and pedophilia but I respectfully disagree regarding female altar servers. Altar servers can be male or female. Case in point... Corpus Christi Catholic Church in St Augustine, FL had female altar servers last Sunday and they have been for the past few years. FWIW :)
     
  16. Mabel

    Mabel Former Member

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    I agree, it's just as possible that some are attracted to little girls as well as little boys, but there are also pedophiles who target one sex or the other. Regardless, these abusive priests are not "gay", they're child molesters. Two totally different things. A homosexual adult who is not a pedophile is no more threat to a child than is a heterosexual adult.
     
  17. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    They're pedophiles. I'm no expert on the subject of being homosexual, but its not an act. You can be gay and be celibate - which is what priests are supposed to be. Have the urges, but not act on them.

    I completely agree with you though. . . I think they should be allowed to marry, etc.
     
  18. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Active Member

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    Hell just froze over!

    THUD!
     
  19. concernedperson

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    Sensibility is always a good thing. Thanks, Mabel.
     
  20. Nova

    Nova Active Member

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    What Maral said above.

    They are indeed pedophiles - whether permanently (i.e., it is their nature) or temporarily (i.e., because boys are available to them). Either way, I'm sure everyone here will agree such priests should not be in the priesthood.
     
  21. Nova

    Nova Active Member

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    Well said, Jeana, Maral, and others!

    As I said in my previous post, I'm not sure all priest-molesters would be pedophiles in another context. Whether we like it or not (and whether they admit is nor not), males tend to be very flexible in their desires - particularly when their "ideal" objects (women, say) are denied to them.

    This is NOT to say, however, that required celibacy "causes" pedophilia. Obviously it does not in the majority of cases, even among priests.
     

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