GUILTY Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

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  1. geevee

    geevee Well-Known Stickie

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    Yes, this is getting to the point of being unseemly...'Don't look side eyes at my client, it reflects badly on me!'. Sheesh, just can it, McGee.
     
  2. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    BBM.... but is it? I've been busy the last few days so haven't had much time to read or research but it seems to me that if he gets the death penalty, everything is automatic, and I'm guessing the State pays for those first few appeals and his lawyers? If he gets life, does he still get that? It also appears that in California, it takes forever, I doubt that it's any quicker when the sentence is life opposed to the death penalty, so really.... what is the difference, other than the death penalty seems to be automatic and probably paid for? It's unfortunate that the process isn't quicker for all involved, especially the families, it will not be over for a long time....

    From the link that @Meemaw12 shared about Westerfield...

    Danielle’s mother, Brenda van Dam, strongly criticized the slow-motion appeals process for her daughter’s killer.

    “We believe that the appeals are frivolous and without merit, and are unnecessarily dragging this case out,” van Damn said in a statement to NBC 7. “There was a full and complete legal defense presented by his qualified attorneys at trial, which put our family and all of San Diego through the ringer. It's time for the jury's verdict to be honored and justice given to Danielle.”
     
  3. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    It's impossible for any narcissist to do that as you know from your own bad experience, MrJitty.

    Like I have previously said both the two defense attorneys, and CM are three full blown narcissists feeding off of each other.

    From moment one it was all about M&M, and never about ethical conduct they both should have displayed throughout.

    These kind of unethical lawyers will do every underhanded trick they can think of to get a win in their column. Anything.... as we have seen them do in this case.

    Imo
     
  4. missingm

    missingm Well-Known Member

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    I also wonder if Death Row accommodations are better than general population.
     
  5. Cricket28

    Cricket28 Well-Known Member

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    I am watching Susan Blake's testimony from yesterday! So friggin sad!
    I have been crying the whole time!

    MOO
     
  6. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    Even those who are sentenced to LWOP get one automatic appeal paid by the taxpayer's carrying the full burdern.

    However for that automatical appeal to windup before the courts can take many years or over a decade to even come to pass.

    I agree with Danielle's mother, the CA appeal process takes far longer than necessary.

    It was said last year they were going to find ways to speed up the appeal process. It's well known that the CA appeal time is ridiculous. Most should have been executed decades ago. Many have lived much longer than the victims they murdered in cold blood. That's just shameful, and how over 700 juries have recommended death, and have yet to see them fulfilled. That is also a slap in the face to every jury who was there during the entire trial from beginning to end. All who knew each convicted defendant deserved death based on each individual case.

    Imo, in the end none of this will matter to this jury or what the government may or may not do afterwards.

    That is totally irrelevant to them. They are there only to recommend the deserved sentence for CM.

    Imo, they are going to sentence CM to death because it is the only correct, and just sentence... based on his demonic evil extreme homicidal violent murders he did to 4 totally innocent victims including two little boys.

    Jmoo
     
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  7. wary

    wary Well-Known Member

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    Re: asking for a stipulation of the defendant’s age.

    Perhaps so the prosecution can legally make the rather obvious point that he committed the murders at a time of life when what he is, is pretty well set.

    In other words, I’ve seen age mentioned as a possible mitigating factor—and I assumed they meant ‘youth.’ The death penalty doesn’t even apply to people under a certain age, so if the defendant were marginally older than that, his lawyers could claim that it’s not right to execute him.

    All this just my speculation
     
  8. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    But confessing would ruin the documentary, don’t ya know! It’s all about poor Chase being railroaded. He has to stick to the script so his attorneys become famous. But it would be great to see him pull the rug out from under them and confess as payback for not getting him off!
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  9. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is just heartbreaking, and shed some tears myself when i watched her recollections of her beloved family. The photos on the screen were just lovely and loved the one of Joey on his surfboard and the video of Summer on the bike.
    It was also awesome the vision she had of her beloved son, like he came back to reassure her. I think she said that happened just before the discovery of her family in the desert. SB seems like a lovely lady and my prayers go to all of them affected by such awful loss in their lives. It's just devastating.
     
  10. MissJames

    MissJames a yellowflutterby changed my life : )

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    I can’t get through it . I skipped ahead to Michael McStay’s & that was harder , can’t get past 3 minutes.

    After losing my 15 yr old , there is a hole I have to avoid going down . I’m always afraid I won’t get back up ,so I just can’t right now.

    I WILL watch it all . The family deserves it and the victims deserve it , but I’ll have to do it in baby steps & when my emotions aren’t running high.
    I’m just so relieved charles merritt ( all lower case ) was found GUILTY !
     
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    I watched the video. Wow. I get the feeling his family is just as grimy as he is. They all gave me maximum cringe. As far as his sister saying he didn't mean it? That's what I heard and in my book that tells me he did it, and she and the rest of the family knows damn well he did it. He should absolutely get death.
     
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  12. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Agreed. But that doesn't relate to my post. The judge can't control whether the defendant attorneys are effective.

    And I think they were effective. But it popped in my head that they might be trying to do something now to give him something for an appeal. Most criminal defense attorneys will do anything to avoid a death sentence for heir clients, including falling on the sword.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Sounds like.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    She's a PI. So unless the decision to not call mitigating witnesses is based on her investigations, (which it could be), it might not be relevant to an ineffective assistance of counsel claim.
     
  15. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    Yes she's also their mitigation specialist.

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    JD Crighton on Twitter
     
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    in search of Well-Known Member

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    I followed this case up until a few weeks after CM was charged, but somehow missed the trial. Can someone tell me why the trial took 5 months?
     
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    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Inefficiency, ineptness, lacsidaisacal judge, poor scheduling, complacency, laziness....
     
  18. Mountain Misst

    Mountain Misst FA in Aus.

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    No matter what the sentence, IMO - CM will appeal. That's the nature of the beast.

    I'm holding for a transfer to San Quentin and the psychological torment of isolation, others I've talked to want him in the general population so he cops a bashing as a child killer.
     
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  19. NMurphy02

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    I thought CM said he had a bad heart and probably wouldn't even make through trial..I guess he lied about that too?
     
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    MrsPC Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, after the verdict was read, Merritt could be seen speaking to one of his attorneys and I believe he was saying "I don't want..." so I think it was Merritt's demand that his family not be called to mitigate on his behalf.

    I found an interesting article (albeit from a VA case) explaining how crucial it is to present mitigating evidence despite a defendant not wanting to.
     

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