GUILTY Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

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  1. Bernina

    Bernina Well-Known Member

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    BBM:
    I always heard them called "jackets".
    Usually, the inmates get a hold of those before the convicted inmate (he's not a new fish because of his prior incarcerations) gets to the prison. And you are absolutely right about the MM as far as CM throwing their name around to get "street cred".
    Anywhere the prison admin puts him, he still has to watch his back. Where there's a will, there's a way, and inmates have a lot of time to devise plans to get to targets.
     
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    Bernina Well-Known Member

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    La Eme is, mark my words.
     
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  3. Tortoise

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    I don't think the DA was. Imes mucked up a bit in his closing when he wasn't aware Merritt was at the house on the 2nd. Defense corrected him.
     
  4. fridaybaker

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    BBM: This is so true. I do believe that there are people, and Summer was one of them, who are far more perceptive about other people and their motives than some; however, this point about him showing himself to Summer is what makes these abusers/manipulators so evil and effective. They alienate and sideline the one who knows (in this case Summer) creating the illusion that that person is the problem, all the while essentially "rubbing it in that person's face".

    It makes that person increasingly angry, and often they lash out more and more in retaliation and in attempts to rectify the situation (in this case, likely fighting with Joey, maybe family). Sadly, that "lashing out" often reinforces the negative attitudes that the abuser has subtly and masterfully planted about the person.

    I know this pattern well, and there's something terrifying about this "showing of himself". In fact, it's done to terrify. In my case, the abuser is viewed by virtually everyone who knows him almost as a saint, all the while overtly showing his evil side to me and a couple other people. We are the crazy ones. We are the bad ones. And most people, sad to say, are totally taken in.
     
  5. Tortoise

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    I don't think jurors were shown that clip on CNN where Merritt made a really disgusting comment about Summer.

    Can't have anything inflammatory in evidence can we, McGee.
     
  6. Hatfield

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    deleted - sorry wrong thread
     
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  7. fridaybaker

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    Oh, come on Hatfield: We call know that the "3rd to last time Chase saw him" was when Joey drove all the way to Chik FilA to hand him a $100 check (or some such amount), so that they would then continue on their "alternative accounting", by which Joey would teach Chase to create checks from his account, via a series of ...telephone calls! Then, with Joey's express permission, to impersonate him at Quickbooks and ask to delete the account.

    I'd say that makes perfect sense: Do all the important things via series of phone calls, but drive a couple of hours to hand someone a $100 check. Oh yes, perfect sense. NOT.
     
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    Mony Mony Well-Known Member

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    My sister worked as a prison nurse. She said the inmates would make appointments for other inmates to get them out of the cell. She said when they left her office, they were always scared and looking around expecting to get jumped.
     
  9. Meemaw12

    Meemaw12 Well-Known Member

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    Where I live there are multiple prisons side by side. I am not sure how many or which is which. That murderer from Balto Syad (from the podcast) something is housed in 1 of them.

    I can tell you there are murders in prison. I see it in my newspaper from time to time. Also stabbings. Usually see guards guarding a room in the ER or Floor when I'm At the hospital.

    Maybe google Cresaptown, MD prisons. Should give a count.

    I hate the prisons are here. Brought a lot of the drugs.
     
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  10. Tortoise

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    I did a really interesting exercise with his February 2010 interview. I separated out all the parts where he is talking about lunch at CFA, and all the other parts where he is narrating every other time he interacted with anyone, from Joey to Dan to Susan to Mike. What is interesting is that you won't find anywhere in his narration about CFA a "he said" or "I said" statement. That is how he narrates, as evidenced in all the other examples. What he says about CFA repeatedly is "we went over" xyz.

    I didn't post it because it's not 100% evidence they didn't meet, it could be a/ they didn't meet or b/ they met and he can't reveal what was said.

    But it does show, IMO, he was lying about what he said happened. Add that to there being no evidence they met and the reason IMO that Joey fatefully let him in the house later. Coincidentally once it had turned dark outside.

    JMO
     
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    I have just been reviewing the prosecution & defense closing arguments, and don't know anything else about the case except that Merritt was found guilty. I have a question, has any of this book, apparently a work in progress, been released? Seems pretty self-serving in the snippets Merritt decided to release to dailymail. The other question, did Merritt really pass a lie detector test? Who administered it? Probably not Tammy Lee.

    Joseph McStay feared wife was POISONING him before they disappeared claims book | Daily Mail Online
     
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  12. ilovewings

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    Oh no, heaven forbid that the jury would get a complete and true picture of the defendant--- this happens in almost all trials so the jurors never know all of the bad stuff the perp has done before they committed the crime they are on trial for (allegedly of course).
     
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  13. Hatfield

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    Nice investigative sleuthing. I like it and I agree with you that this hints that the meeting at the CFA probably never happened.
     
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    I recently read an article about Scott Peterson being on death row and by all accounts he's a well liked prisoner with friends and various privileges. Apparently San Quentin has an area for death row inmates that's cozier than the rest of death row and it houses Scott Peterson. Do you have any idea how it's decided who will be in the cushy area and why is Peterson still alive?

    I love that you have inside experience and information due to your job. Despite what Merritt may think most of us have never seen the inside of a prison. Lol
    Killer Scott Peterson living a 'cushy' life on death row
     
  15. Karinna

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    I find the book Merritt supposedly wrote a few chapters on weird. What possessed him to write a book around that time? And when he told LE he would send them a copy he never did. What ever happened to it unless of course it was another lie?
    I find the title very strange as well. Who was afraid of the light exactly? Was it in relation to death? When people have a near death experience they claim they see a light. Or was it more about CM being afraid of the light considering what he had done? His darkness in fact of committing these evil crimes?
     
  16. MsBetsy

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    Yes, I did not mean that they do not occur at all, only that it is rare.
    The number of inmates murdered in jail and prison has steadily declined significantly since the 1980's. At that time there were about 54 deaths per one hundred thousand inmates. Today that number is more like 3 or 4 murders per 100,000 inmates.

    I'm not sure of the exact numbers because it varies year to year but it still safer for a criminal to be in prison than out on the streets.

    However, as I said, the number of reported assaults are much higher, especially sexual assault, but those cases are difficult to prove. Imo
     
  17. ilovewings

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    The book was written by Meritt---- spare me- what a pile of garbage- who would believe anything that came out of his lying mouth
     
  18. MsBetsy

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    I posted about this a long time ago, but there was an old article which stated LE recovered pages of notes for the book at his home.
    Whether or not it was valuable evidence or what those pages included I have no idea.
    I was not aware the book was ever published or what the title was. Imo
     
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    I saw that, I was just wondering if the text had actually been released, not just his own chosen snippets.
     
  20. Karinna

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    Yes i recall about LE finding some notes and think that info. was in the 300 page search warrant PDF document i read.
    And don't think there was ever a book he wrote that was published?
     
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