GUILTY Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

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  1. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    That piece they put out was useless and not informative at all. At the end of the article I was thinking wait, where's the rest of it? Lol
     
  2. missingm

    missingm Well-Known Member

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    Didn't they also show the jurors coming into court on one of their live feeds?

    I saw their commentary once and was like "Are they watching the same trial?"
     
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  3. MrsPC

    MrsPC Well-Known Member

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    L&C claims the defense is taking an "oblique" approach to offer lingering doubt to the jurors. The defense isn't even offering any mitigating evidence so the suggestion of lingering doubt will most certainly be "oblique." lol

    adjective
    If you describe a statement as oblique, you mean that is not expressed directly or openly, making it difficult to understand.

    (as an aside...I was reading the chat comments on L&C during the trial - pre-verdict- and Cathy Russon posted that she was totally offering her "unbiased opinion" on the McStay case when she was at one point cheering for the defense. I had to laugh.)
     
  4. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the FOS defense by L&C for the DT, LOL.
     
  5. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    There is another thread here at WS (
    Looking for podcast recommendations ) which talks about different podcasts that are crime-related. One is called " Ear Hustle ", and it is all about life in San Quentin. The most recent one a few weeks ago was about the Reception Center at San Quentin, where guys learn the prison ropes while waiting to find out where they’ll serve time.
     
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    KALI Well-Known Member

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    KALI Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for that information Dixie Girl.
    While I think about a scenario, where I am going to live amongst the most violent human beings ever, I would be scared shitless.
    I do not think that Chase Merritt will be.
    I truly believe that he thinks that he is a Bad Ass.

    The NEW news for Chase Merritt is...
    You don't murder with a hammer two baby boys.
    You are no bad Ass Chase Merritt.
    You are a lying, sniveling worthlessness thing.
    Sorry webslueths members. My heart still breaks.
     
  8. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    I think the non-appearance of mitigation witnesses after the defence saying they had planned on two days was absolutely his decision, his order in fact. I think the verdict had him humiliated and angry. He really believed he had come up with a believable defence to each spoke of the prosecution's case, not seeing how many leaps outside of normal life experience he expected jurors to make, like accepting they shook hands for 2 minutes and having to believe some other killer didn't leave dna in the Trooper - wiping away his own but leaving CM's and Joey's on the steering wheel; believing he really was in the clubhouse for 3 1/2 hours after they had heard the jailhouse tape - and his phone not switched off but merely malfunctioning while the McStays were being murdered - his call to Cathy that night a flier; that Joey really was learning how to delete cheques and that first cashed cheque just wound its way into CM's hands after he'd left the residence; that he backdated cheques to Joey's last day alive if not by computer programming then by coincidence, etc. He imagined with his grandiose sense of self being believed and that is what kept him going, with his concertina folder and sticky notes directing everyone. Until they said guilty.

    There is nothing that mitigates in these truly worst of the worst abhorrent crimes, but I think this phase is about what, above and beyond the circumstances of the crimes, aggravates or mitigates in choosing his penalty. Just knowing someone loved him, however blind, and knowing people would suffer if he is put to death would be something for the jury to weigh.

    I'm not surprised to see his shame speaking, the core of the narcissist, that is the way he spins it imo, directing his rage back out at those who saw him and declared him guilty. He will punish them in his head by not cooperating with this process, imo. I think he's on to the next fight already, this jury did not believe the people and witnesses he set up in his corner, so don't humiliate him further, get this over with, say he's innocent and move on already to the appeal process.

    JMO
     
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  9. Meemaw12

    Meemaw12 Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of murders in prisons.

    Last week someone in one of our state prisons was murdered. Word is someone used a frozen hotdog shaved down to a point and jabbed it into a guys throat.

    Shocking to me.
     
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    Now that its done and dusted - i feel free to say that efforts to innocently explain away the deleted / backdated cheques is by far the most obviously silly part of the defence case

    In order to believe the explanations you have to throw all common sense out the window
     
  11. coastal

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    Sometimes you scare me a little, Tortoise. You seem to have gotten right inside his head; that is, what you suggest may have been this killer's motivations and acts click together so well, so reasonably, that it finally all makes a terrible kind of sense in my head. [​IMG]

    Thank you for your insight. This particular monster terrifies me, so I do want him unmasked. But suddenly, I'm not ready. I'm afraid.

    Does understanding him as you do help you to feel less afraid of him, Tortoise? Or more afraid?
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    Don't be afraid of him. There's no way he'll walk out of prison alive, however, we need to watch out for his type as they're lurking around every corner.
     
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    I read today that the DT will NOT present any witnesses for CM during his penalty phase? Other than trying to say he "was framed." If they go with that, they have no clue what to everyone heard throughout this trial. IMO, that is NOT doing CM any favors, if true.
     
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    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    Honestly I think he will be given DP no matter what.

    I honestly can’t see a scenario where the jury won’t recommend the DP

    It’s the only just sentence for the crimes they found him guilty of

    Jmo
     
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    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    BBM

    Have I mentioned “The Gift Of Fear” recently? Must reading for anyone who tends to ignore their feelings about a person or situation.
    https://www.amazon.com/Gift-Fear-Survival-Signals-Violence/dp/0440226198
     
  16. Edmo

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    Inmates are also married to spouses in LE, believe it or not. I've dealt with several who had their spouses run criminal checks, yes access to inmate criminal records, who used the records for targeting other inmates throughout our system. I can recall 2 inmates, whom I had to investigate personally, from the Mexican Mafia who had (1) a spouse and (2) a family member working for different LE agencies in So Calif to do this for them. Both were inmates who were in Administrative Segregation (housed alone with the worst of the worst) and were able to identify and place a "hit" on other inmates from their single cells.
     
  17. mom2chloe

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    Or maybe the DT is trying to pull on the jury’s heart strings as in please don’t sentence CM to death because frankly there is not a single human on the face of the planet with anything nice to say about him. He has zero redeeming quality.
    Good riddance CM! He will never see the light of day again and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving loser! IMHO
     
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  18. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    If ever there were a crime that the death penalty is meant for it is this. But honestly, I want whatever punishment is the most restrictive and gives him the least amount of privileges, etc. I want him to spend his remaining days on earth as miserable as possible. If he gets death he'll go to San Quentin but if he gets LWOP I want him as far from his family as possible. If the McStays and Arandas can't see their family ever again I don't feel like Merritt should have physical contact with his. Call me cold and harsh but Merritt made his own bed and now he needs to lay in it.
     
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    Even the delivery of a local newspaper to inmates can have deadly consequences. One man held his gf and 12 y/o hostage with a shotgun, the night before. By the time he ( a previous parolee) was booked into custody (around 3-4 am) his crime had been printed in the newspaper the day he was booked, unknown to us. We passed out newspaper at 5 am, during morning breakfast. He ended up being slashed/stabbed with a toothbrush with a razor blade during breakfast.
     
  20. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    That is nuts! I think inmates and all the time they have on their hands can be very resourceful people.

    One of my pet peeves is inmates being allowed to get married while incarcerated and conjugal visits. It's suppose to be punishment, not Club Med.
     
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