GUILTY Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

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  1. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Lovely to see the love McStay's have for their pets.
    Beaut they were looked after, when McStay's were gone.
     
  2. citygirl

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    Tracy's testimony is gut wrenching.
    Am also struck by the fact that Taylor is still there to support her father until the end. Sad to see, actually.
    The ripple effect or as the PT has said the butterfly effect.
    And CM seemed cold and removed from all the testimony.
    Trying desperately to look like a lawyer, still. Actually taking notes? One can only imagine what he is writing.
     
  3. casesensitive

    casesensitive Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't able to see today's live video. It's not on L and C and is not on you tube. Does anyone know where I can find it? TIA
     
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    My3Sons Well-Known Member

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    They're all posted at Law and Crime under "McStay Family Murder Trial Penalty Phase Day 3"
     
  5. casesensitive

    casesensitive Well-Known Member

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    Thank you My3Sons.
     
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  6. TXFForever

    TXFForever Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone suspect CM before his arrest for this unspeakable crime?
     
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    Interestingly enough—a few days ago, I dug back into the first couple of threads where Websleuths first discovered their disappearance, and there were a few people saying: “I bet it’s that guy who makes fountains for them.”

    But, I wasn’t reading for most of the 4.5 years before he was arrested—I have the impression that people pursued a multitude of other theories during that time.
     
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  8. Bernina

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    I *think* because of his sociopathic and narcissistic personality, he didn't have nightmares about the murders.
    I don't even think he has nightmares of prison at this point, only ones of how he was done an injustice, his attorneys betrayed him, and how in the world could a jury convict such a talented artist like himself.
    The tears we saw earlier in the trial were only CM mimicking what he believes one does when they're supposed to, We DID see his flashes of anger, almost rage, for brief moments.
    Only someone like that could wipe out a family with a sledgehammer and then head off to the casino.
     
  9. Bernina

    Bernina Well-Known Member

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    Patrick McStay did say during the time they were "missing" that one of the people Joey worked with had a record. CM is the only one I know of. There was also mention that Patrick let CM get "close" in an attempt to get information, whether through the "book" CM claimed he was writing or just "theories. Force10 would know more about that.
     
  10. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Some here were hoping they just walked away. But among those who thought they were dead, there were many theories pursued: Mikey, or Joey’s ex-wife’s husband, or even Summer did it. In fact there was a writer RB who wrote a scathing book accusing Summer. He was interviewed by Tricia and participated in the thread for awhile as a member (the threads are still available). IIRC CM helped provide info for his book. Even after they were found, I seem to recall that Patrick didn’t think CM was involved immediately. So CM seemed to fly under the radar here for the most part.
     
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  11. KALI

    KALI Well-Known Member

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    I see a lot of new people on this chat board about the murders of the McStay family in Fallbrook.
    I have a statement to make, in case anyone gets confused.
    I am NOT a member of either Joey's or Summer's families.
    Nor, have I ever claimed to be.
    I am simply a concerned person who lives in Fallbrook that wanted to help find this missing family.
    That's it.
    That the search for these four people ended up being one of the most terrible crimes I have ever heard of-has wrenched my heart.
    However, I am not a family member, nor an insider.
    I am just a neighbor who completely understands Joey and Summer's lifestyle.
    It is very similar to ours.
    I will be forever heartbroken about the cruelty this family endured.
    But, never as heartbroken as their loving family members have endured.
    I know, I said endured twice.
    I will always mourn the lives of these four innocents.
    This crime is beyond awful, and horrible like no movie director has even thought of.
    I've only been observing. And it still hurts my heart so bad that anyone could slaughter this family.
     
  12. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    This ^^^. I think you hit the nail on the head.
     
  13. casesensitive

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    I did. After I read his very first media interview I posted that I had bad vibes about him. I'm sure I posted that but I can't be bothered to try and find my post. Maybe I just liked a post that said the same thing I was feeling. I felt a bit uncomfortable at the time because many people thought he was genuine. I was creeped out by him from the beginning, which was just a gut feeling with no basis.
     
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    I did. As soon as I discovered, that he was a double felon, ex-convict who had an outstanding warrant. And he kept taunting everyone (esp. LE), declaring that he "was definitely the *last* person who saw JM alive."
     
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    Yes, I watched an interwiev in the beginning and said to myself: Look at him, he is lying. He did it. I had no doubt, that came later bcs I thought LE had him ruled out and I hoped they were in Mexico. When they were found and Merrit was arrested I said FINALLY!!!
     
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    I've been thinking the same thing. How detached he his. Has anyone even seen him turn around and smile at his daughter? And he is still taking notes. lol

    MOO
     
  18. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Thursday, June 20th:
    *Penalty Phase Trial (Day 4) (@ 9:30am PT) - CA - McStay Family: Joseph (40), Summer (43), Gianni (4) & Joey Jr (3) (Feb. 4, 2010, Fallbrook; found Nov. 11, 2013) - *Charles "Chase" Ray Merritt aka Charles Ray Mandel aka Charles Ray Morritt aka Chase Meredith aka Chase Jarvis (57/now 62) arrested (11/5/14) & indicted (11/7/14) of 4 counts of murder with special circumstance. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DP case.
    Trial started 1/7/19. Dark on all Fridays. Jurors started with 8 women & 4 men; now have 9 women & 3 men (alternates started with 4 men & 2 women-alternates left 1 men & 1 woman). Took about 22 hours of deliberations for guilty verdict on all 4 counts of 1st degree murder with special circumstance.
    Trial Days (1-63: 1/7/19 thru 6/7/19) & Verdict (6/10/19) & Penalty Phase Day 1 (6/11/19) reference post #275 here:
    GUILTY - Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

    6/18/19 Day 2: Afternoon session only. State witness: Kenneth Aranda from Hawaii via Skype (Summer's brother). Done for the day. Prosecution wants testimony from Summer's Sister, Tracy Russell, who is currently on vacation in Greece via Skype tomorrow. If not, the pros will rest in the penalty phase. Penalty phase continues on 6/19.
    6/19/19 Day 3: Tracy Russell (Summer's sister via Skype from Greece). Prosecution rests. Defense calls no witnesses. Defense rests. Judge Smith gave jury instructions. Closing statements were given by Prosecutors. Judge has to leave at 3:30pm, so Defense will begin closing tomorrow, 6/20.
    Schedule for Penalty Phase-Week of June 17 thru 21st: NO court-6/17-Monday; Court on 6/18-Tuesday starts @ 1:30pm; Court on 6/19-Wednesday; Court on 6/20-Thursday; Court on 6/21-Friday (Maybe?).
    Schedule for Penalty Phase-Week of June 24 thru 28th: Judge will give instructions for deliberations-6/24, Monday; Jury deliberations-6/25, Tuesday and on.
     
  19. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Now - I need some help? I noticed someone mention Patrick was going to testify - did he? I didn't see it any tweets.

    TIA! :)
     
  20. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    No he didn’t. I was looking forward to seeing him.
     
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