Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #39

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JMO

TS tells us she rented the car and that she and AS left in it.

I'm going to wager that AS knew NOTHING of that rental until learning it from LE.

JMO JMO JMO
Makes no sense anyway. To save miles. She still had to drive her car to the airport and back even after the rental. Where are the savings? To not drive it during “the search”. So many holes in her BS.
 
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Makes no sense anyway. To save miles. She still had to drive her car to the airport and back even after the rental. Where are the savings? To not drive it during @the search”. So many holes in her BS.
She spent way more money than she would have otherwise, even if she was going over the mileage her lease allowed.

The math doesn’t work at all, nor does the other logic (that he would be scared if he saw a car he recognized).
 
yah the original rental car keeps being brought up. LE is convinced (and so am I) that LS was in Florida btwn February 3-5 I believe (don’t quote me on the exact dates, but I believe I’m pretty close). The original rental car was returned on January 29th, so she only had it overnight. If a rental vehicle was used it was a different one that she likely used to go from Colorado to Florida to South Carolina. So my point is, I don’t believe the original rental car has any significance in moving the body to Florida. Now could she have used the original Kia rental to move the body from one place to another within Colorado or near by and moved it again later, absolutely. But I don’t believe there’s any way possible that the Kia was ever used for the Florida excursion jmo
I'm starting to think she used the car and drove about half the miles used on the rental to a drop off point then retrieved the suitcase on the way with the moving truck.

ETA Colorado Springs to Amarillo TX 360.1 miles
Colorado Springs to Frisco TX 718.6 miles
Colorado Springs to Abilene TX 642 miles

Could have been Amarillo JMO

ETA page 10 of 23 https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...so/20CR1358/001/Complaint and Information.pdf
 
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I've done that! Patched a kitchen floor perfectly by "borrowing" linoleum from under the stove and patched a carpet perfectly from... as you said, the closet. If bird-brain had taken a few deep breaths, that could have been all that happened that Sunday night. If it had been me, I'd have patched it and would give the kids ice cream or something nice after dinner to help Gannon feel better about it. No big deal. But, she had another agenda and I don't think she's ever in full control of herself. It was the perfect storm for her.
I don’t think the carpet was damaged by anything but blood.
 
She drove over 1000 miles to Fl just to dump him somewhere he would be found quickly. The Everglades are full of alligators as are other bodies of water there and all over the Deep South, LA, Al, etc. Why not put him in any lake down there. It makes me wonder if someone else did the drop, someone who really didn’t care if she got caught. Or maybe, she got spooked, by a cop car or something and felt like she had to unload the body ASAP or get caught.

The big question tho is where the hell did she hide the body for almost a month and a half without someone smelling it. The maids in hotel, family members, friends, coyotes, mountain lions, other animals, etc. it must have been put somewhere safe, like a storage locker or freezer. But you’d think LE would check every storage place in CO. Maybe she rented one under a fake name, still they could have checked at the front desk and shown her picture, also check company surveillance video. And even in storage someone would smell it. She’s a control freak imo, I doubt she’d have let the body out of her sight for very long at all.

When did LE first search house, her cars, etc? What about her hotel room if that’s were she was staying. If she really did have 5 people with her at interview, maybe someone else helped her. If she hid body at anyone’s house and said this is my suitcase hold it for me, they would have smelled the death. And how did she flee to S.C. (bc that’s what she did. She was running for sure) without CO LE or FBI knowing!?
 
Re why Florida - so shes driving with the body in the trunk and looking for a good enough place to leave it. I can imagine how no place is quite good enough as shes driving along. She doesnt want to double back and take a closer look anywhere amd arouse suspicion. There's plenty of road ahead. And then all of a sudden shes half way to SC .. then two thirds...

Maybe she had been careful with DNA on the suitcase and didnt want to go down and move rocks over it and leave her traces everywhere.

Maybe she got high as a kite in a motel and paranoia sent her back out that night with impaired judgement.

If that suitcase was weighted and she missed the river that would be something of a fitting ending to her sorry misadventure.
 
Having watched quite possible too many shows about women's prisons, I imagine she will rise to the top of pile very quickly and get too comfortable and fall as quickly as she rose. It's going to take a lot of talking and fighting on her part to survive for the long term.
Willing to bet she gets shanked or severely beaten within the first 18 months of being in gen pop.
Yah, she is definitely going to rub some people the wrong way. I foresee some beatdowns in her future for sure.
 
She drove over 1000 miles to Fl just to dump him somewhere he would be found quickly. The Everglades are full of alligators as are other bodies of water there and all over the Deep South, LA, Al, etc. Why not put him in any lake down there. It makes me wonder if someone else did the drop, someone who really didn’t care if she got caught. Or maybe, she got spooked, by a cop car or something and felt like she had to unload the body ASAP or get caught.

The big question tho is where the hell did she hide the body for almost a month and a half without someone smelling it. The maids in hotel, family members, friends, coyotes, mountain lions, other animals, etc. it must have been put somewhere safe, like a storage locker or freezer. But you’d think LE would check every storage place in CO. Maybe she rented one under a fake name, still they could have checked at the front desk and shown her picture, also check company surveillance video. And even in storage someone would smell it. She’s a control freak imo, I doubt she’d have let the body out of her sight for very long at all.

When did LE first search house, her cars, etc? What about her hotel room if that’s were she was staying. If she really did have 5 people with her at interview, maybe someone else helped her. If she hid body at anyone’s house and said this is my suitcase hold it for me, they would have smelled the death. And how did she flee to S.C. (bc that’s what she did. She was running for sure) without CO LE or FBI knowing!?

It wasn't even close to a month and a half.
 
Re why Florida - so shes driving with the body in the trunk and looking for a good enough place to leave it. I can imagine how no place is quite good enough as shes driving along. She doesnt want to double back and take a closer look anywhere amd arouse suspicion. There's plenty of road ahead. And then all of a sudden shes half way to SC .. then two thirds...

Maybe she had been careful with DNA on the suitcase and didnt want to go down and move rocks over it and leave her traces everywhere.

Maybe she got high as a kite in a motel and paranoia sent her back out that night with impaired judgement.

If that suitcase was weighted and she missed the river that would be something of a fitting ending to her sorry misadventure.

Yes. I really feel like she intended for that suitcase to end up at the bottom of that water. I just don't understand yet why it didn't.
 
So I just spotted something on Spencer Wilson's twitter page where he listed the new charges.
S/one pointed out that charges 10, 11 & 12 were against a child under 12, charges 6, 7. 8 use same verbiage without "child under 12"

He pointed out that the charges relate to "someone" not specifically Gannon Stauch.

These were added after his body was found. I wonder if "someone" told LE they were held hostage by her and were made to do something they didn't want to do, but to prove that they needed Gannon's body?

Maybe it's just a local statute thingy.

Like maybe they have one statute for a particular category of person (child under 12); and another statute for anybody of any age; but they can both encompass the same person. Maybe the "child under 12" is an add-on with a worse penalty than the generic.
 
She drove over 1000 miles to Fl just to dump him somewhere he would be found quickly. The Everglades are full of alligators as are other bodies of water there and all over the Deep South, LA, Al, etc. Why not put him in any lake down there. It makes me wonder if someone else did the drop, someone who really didn’t care if she got caught. Or maybe, she got spooked, by a cop car or something and felt like she had to unload the body ASAP or get caught.

The big question tho is where the hell did she hide the body for almost a month and a half without someone smelling it. The maids in hotel, family members, friends, coyotes, mountain lions, other animals, etc. it must have been put somewhere safe, like a storage locker or freezer. But you’d think LE would check every storage place in CO. Maybe she rented one under a fake name, still they could have checked at the front desk and shown her picture, also check company surveillance video. And even in storage someone would smell it. She’s a control freak imo, I doubt she’d have let the body out of her sight for very long at all.

When did LE first search house, her cars, etc? What about her hotel room if that’s were she was staying. If she really did have 5 people with her at interview, maybe someone else helped her. If she hid body at anyone’s house and said this is my suitcase hold it for me, they would have smelled the death. And how did she flee to S.C. (bc that’s what she did. She was running for sure) without CO LE or FBI knowing!?

I am trying to figure this out. The stepmom moved back to South Carolina at some point after her husband filed for divorce. Still looking at google maps, Myrtle Beach (where she was in S.C.) is about a 10 hour drive from where the body was found in Florida. So if she did take the body with her, then that was a heck of a detour and she took a longer route to S.C. It would be interesting to find which route she took to S.C. There is just not enough info in this case. When did she leave? Was LE tracking her via GPS? Like you said, where did she hide the body? How could she transport a decaying body without no one noticing the smell? Things are not adding up.
 
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ALL MOO & Pure Speculation!!!

On Tues Jan 28th after LS has stormed off & left the house, LE takes AS around the house and asks him to tell them about anything that might be missing from the house. He checks the garage and tells them that a suitcase, which he describes to LE, is missing. AS might have also thought it odd as he didn't see LS pack it up with her things when she left, and would his 11 year old son have packed a suitcase to "runaway?" Of course not! AS said his son would never have runaway, that was completely out of character!

So LE knows a suitcase is missing from the house, and they have a description of it. Fast forward, Gannon is found in a suitcase that matches the exact description of the missing suitcase in FL.......o_O

Interviewer: "So you were the last one to be seen with Gannon?"

LS: "That's correct."

MOO MOO

Do you have a source that he was found in a suitcase?
 
Why, with the river right there, did she drop him onto the rocks and brush? That makes no sense to me. Now I'm back to wondering if she wanted him to be found. Or did she misjudge where the water was? For someone who went to all the trouble she did to get poor Gannon to FL, why not weight the body / suitcase down and drop it in the water 1/2 mile sooner??
Do you have a source that he was found in a suitcase? I searched google and found no credible news statement saying so.
 
IMO, the "2 aunts" Spencer Wilson clarified, were probably amongst the ranks of the purported family members said to be defending TS in social media.

You know, I understand as human we are/can be emotional beings. I understand the feelings of jealousy, resentment, anger, felling worthless, feeling like somebody is better than you, feeling you can't do anything right, feeling like your world as you know it is about to end. I understand these feelings can be overwhelming and hard to deal with.

BUT

What I don't understand is projecting these feelings and emotions on to an 11 year old child. Channeling those to a child to the point that you abuse and murder him. Seeing the pain and anguish on his parents face then getting in front of a camera telling them they owe YOU an apology. Moving the small body as far away from his family as possible so he can't be found and at least brought home to the ones that loved him so much. Posting videos of the child waving to the camera to taunt the parents of a child you murdered. Sitting so cocky in front of a judge acting like LEA have made a mistake and will be out before lunch.
Like there are some crimes I can read and follow and be like, "ok, I can kinda see what is going on here," this one, not even close. I can't for the life of me understand why she did this even though I know how hard emotions can be to handle.

I cannot wait until they start unsealing more documents in this case. Although, I know it is going to be hard to read, I'm hoping it will lend an insight to help me at least somewhat understand why she felt the need to take the life of a child that seemed to be so loved. Maybe that is the reason. Maybe she couldn't handle how much love Gannon got from his father, mother, sister, grandparents, everybody that knew him. Maybe she couldn't handle the light he projected and had to put it out.

Sorry, I'm kind of rambling. I've followed many cases over the years. None have punched me in my emotional gut they was this has.

I can't quite answer "why", because it's a mystery to me.

I do think, however, if we continue to remember the "how", we'll unravel more in our heads as time goes on.

The "how could she" of it is, because TS is stupid and thinks she's brilliant.

All you have to do to know this for a fact, is to have known one of these people before; and it will come right to mind. :)

Well, that's what she wants everyone to believe.

Yeah, that's been her standard response.

Ironically, there were also multiple charges along the way that she had hacked family members' social media accounts, to post items "defending" herself while pretending to be the family members.

This is one of those "Takes one to know one" moments.

Believe me it's not only stepmoms who kill children by far. Iirc, those murdered by a step parent or live in boyfriend or girlfriend are around 4 to 5% of those who murder children.

All anyone has to do is look at the many cases right here on WS, both active, and recent murder cases to realize way too many bio moms are murdering their precious children or are willing coconspirators in carrying out horrific abuses, gross neglect, murders, and helping to discard their children's bodies.

The last data I read on the maltreatment of all children in the US it is done 59 to 60% of the time by their own biological mothers.

It's also biological moms who are selling their little children to pedophiles or are raping, molesting their own small children while video taping it, and selling it online to other pedophiles.

I've also read bio moms, and bio dads by far murder their children much more often than steps or live ins do.

This case is absolutely horrendous no doubt...committed by the most evil stepmom imaginable, but we cant lose sight of who the majority of abused, grossly neglected children had/have to fear the most during their childhood if they survive, and its bio parents.

Children who suffer neglect, abuse, and being murdered are also committed by a bio parent the majority of the time.

I would put the links up now, but I'm away from my computer. Since my recent hospital stay I cant sit up for long at my computer or I would link them all myself like I usually do.

We can't pretend that children only have to fear someone that doesnt have the same bloodline as they do for it simply isn't true.

I read almost every single day about another child being abused or killed, and most often the suspect is one of their own parent who brought them into this world then feel they are burdens they no longer want to carry instead of the true blessings from God as all children are.

To think the cure all for protecting all children is for the bio mom to be raising them is unrealistic,and baseless since so many of them are the very ones causing great pain, suffering, and death.

Maybe another poster would be so kind to put the links up for me. If not, I will try my best to do it tomorrow.

As a childhood abuse survivor, I think it's very important for all to know who children have to fear the most, and who is the greatest enemy they have to face behind closed doors of their home.

The facts, no matter how brutal to take, matters... especially when it comes to the maltreatment of precious innocent children.

Jmhoo

To be fair to the good bio-mothers (and stepmothers), I feel I should point out that many of the cases we've seen lately about heinous treatment of defenseless children, were because the family members opening the children up for abuse, were drug addicts (generally meth) trying to get a hold of their next "fix".

Not all of them, but I was feeling badly for the "good ones", so just thought I'd point that out.

In case this hasn't been mentioned. 3 FBI witnesses are listed on the witness list from Jacksonville Florida. This leads me to believe they were on it earlier on and why Gannon was already on their radar there. Just my opinion. Also ,I'm still wondering why there's 1 FBI witness from West Virginia. This state is the furthest north and really not anywhere that we know she traveled. YET.

I wonder if a single individual or two here and there, was loaned from their local FBI office to another state's FBI, because the local FBI agent in question is a specialist.
 
She drove over 1000 miles to Fl just to dump him somewhere he would be found quickly....

The big question tho is where the hell did she hide the body for almost a month and a half without someone smelling it. The maids in hotel, family members, friends, coyotes, mountain lions, other animals, etc. it must have been put somewhere safe, like a storage locker or freezer. But you’d think LE would check every storage place in CO. Maybe she rented one under a fake name, still they could have checked at the front desk and shown her picture, also check company surveillance video. And even in storage someone would smell it. She’s a control freak imo, I doubt she’d have let the body out of her sight for very long at all.

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Yeah, I don't know how she managed the odor.

But the time period wasn't a month and a half. GS went missing on January 27. LE seems to think his body was left in Florida about a week later, Feb 3-5.

Even a week later though odor would have been a huge problem. People have mentioned products made for pet odors. Maybe she used those but I can't imagine they were very effective against the odor of decomposition from something as large as a child's body. The most effective pet products that I know of are enzyme-based products that break down organic compounds to eliminate rather than mask odor. They work pretty well on smaller stuff like cat urine but even then, the product may need to be applied twice. And, not to be too indelicate, unlike an old pet accident, a dead body will be a constant source of newly forming organic compounds. Enzymes in these products don't last long and so the product would have to be frequently reapplied. And even then...

People have mentioned the body could have been frozen by being left outdoors in CO. I guess that's possible but it looks like the week GS went missing, daytime temperatures in the Colorado Springs area were above freezing every single day and weren't all that low even at night (mid to upper 20's-- a food freezer temperature is 0° and even then, larger items don't freeze solid immediately.) And the weekend of Feb 1, daytime temperatures were in the 60s. Even in the shade, I'm not understanding how a body could have been solidly frozen and kept frozen. A pile of deep snow not visibly melting away in the shade doesn't mean some of the snow doesn't melt. And I'd think some of a body in the shade would thaw. Some have also hypothesized she moved the body on the 28th to a new location and picked it up the following week but many of the locations mentioned would have been fairly warm (like Texas.)

I guess IF the body somehow was frozen, dry ice could have kept it frozen for the Florida road trip in February.
JMO
 
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