Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #42

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  1. LeBlack

    LeBlack Well-Known Member

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    He must have lived the first time. (SARCASM) IDK, maybe it worked well as a work excuse the first time? Or she has another stepfather she wishes ill?
     


  2. LeBlack

    LeBlack Well-Known Member

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    Have they found the Switch?
     
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  3. Angels27

    Angels27 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, she’s got the thought and speech patterns of someone with brain damage from something. Could be drugs.
     
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  4. H73

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    I really don’t think the DA wants to charge HH unless they have no other choice however there are still big chunks of the case missing and it may come down to those missing pieces.
     
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    Moonracer Well-known Unknown

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    That was not my experience, but it is a popular trope that goes along with the "honor among thieves" trope - MOO - but I did see it hold true among male inmates more often than among female inmates. A female perp in a horrible torture murder of a young man was POPULAR with both sexes.

    Many times inmates are not aware of each other's criminal histories. Sometimes a high-profile inmate is moved out of state and the inmates in the new state don't care about how infamous the crime was in the original state, example JTP who kidnapped Jayme is now in my state in gen pop I believe.
     
  6. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy&Gabby

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    I'm reminded that AS reported GS as a runaway on the non-emergency police line, and believe this accounts for the 3 hour response time-- and not that this is fairly normal response time after a child's been reported missing.

    I'm quite certain police response is definitely based on the urgency of the caller -- especially when the call comes in on 911 by a frantic parent. Time is of the essence. More recently, Faye Swetlik, Cayce, NC and Lizzie Shelly of Logan, UT (child homicides) come to mind-- both of which had an immediate response by LE to the 911 call reporting a child missing.

    I wonder if AS questioned the non-urgent report of his son missing? Did GS have a history of going out and not returning as planned, and AS OK with this? He was only 11...

    I don't think the stats have changed much -- the average age/gender for a missing child (homicide) is female, age 11; and missing children are usually killed within 3 hours of being abducted and/or missing.

    Child Abduction Murder Research | Washington State
     
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  7. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Really? Well, I'm used to California. I live in a county between LA and SF.

    I watched someone get beaten into unconsciousness in SF - the police never did arrive. The motel owner did nothing. We called an ambulance, which took almost an hour to arrive. I spent a couple of months trying to find out why, from SFPD, and got some interesting interviews. I was told to report it on an online page so that it could be part of their crime stats.

    There was no virus shutting down the nation in January - but the response today would be a bit quicker (because, well, the local crime rate where I live is way lower than usual).

    If you go back to the first couple of threads for Gannon's case, you'll see that other kids went missing that same week. Missing persons is not a top level emergency. Someone going in and shooting up a public place is a top level emergency.

    I would be surprised if LE arrived within 30 minutes for a "runaway, voluntarily missing" person case anywhere - but perhaps you live someplace where there are lots of police. We can barely afford the police we have, where I live.

    The number of kids who don't come home when they're supposed to (where I live) is up to 50 per day - so there's no way that our 12-20 patrolling officers can get to all of those in 30 minutes (weekends are worse).

    How many responding officers do you have? My city is about 150,000.

    I stopped listening to the local scanner, but by 9-10 pm each night, there are multiple calls for officers to respond to various altercations, fights, thefts, etc. All of those involve immediate violence. A missing person is just not coded as being as important. Officers no longer go solo - two or three cars are always called out. Just the park near my house will have 3-4 calls per hour. Nextdoor stats report an upswing in suspicious person complaints (although really, there's a downturn in street crime - domestic violence is much higher).

    If a small child goes missing, I think maybe the response would be faster, but for an 11 year old, not so sure.

    Have you ever called the police for a domestic violence complaint? It's a really unpredictable response time, but I'd say 20-30 minutes where I live (and then, the main officer is usually around for 1-2 hours, depending on what happened).
     
  8. katydid23

    katydid23 On Time Out

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    Gannon is dead because of HH's Mom. I imagine she is very afraid of her Mom, and her Mom's immediate relatives. HH knows what her Mom is capable of.

    I see her as a victim as well, at this time. My opinion may change over time, but I have to keep in mind that she was raised in a very close, toxic relationship with this gaslighting, evil woman.
     
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  9. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    ANOTHER post that deserves giant bold letters and to be repeated. Deception is an interesting one. If anyone near LS made a misstep here and left something out, Ooo boy.

    I agree with other posters who have said: justice will work it out.
     
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    I believe this is also the area where LE stopped allowing media to video/report from across the street? I remember our conversation(s) at the time speculated that (1) the green barrier on the fence was placed there by LE, and (2) something must have been found in the area if media was no longer allowed to be close to the search. I think were right about #2. :(
     
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    Thinking about the AA today and trying to figure out the "medical emergency" during the LE interview and had a thought. Is it possible that LS had her first ever major panic attack when she realized they knew she had killed GS? As someone with severe anxiety, I can attest to the fact that they can make you think you're actually having cardiac issues. MOO
     
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    In the AA, #18, it says TS called 911 at 1855 (6:55) to report GS missing. She was advised by the operator to call the non-emergency line for El Paso Co. So whatever delays there were, weren't her doing if the AA report is accurate. (And I'd think it would be on that point because LE could easily check records.)

    Nor could TS be sure cops wouldn't show for hours giving her more clean up time. JMO
     
  13. mommadukes

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    Yes, this is how I feel as well. Once the arrest was made, all bets were off as far as HH not cooperating with LE. Hopefully, HH came around to thinking logically once her domineering mother was placed in cuffs.
     
  14. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science."- Liet Kynes

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    I need to remember in this thread and future threads that this is about Gannon.
    That said, there is a lot to discuss from the AA.

    I am neither for nor against HH ; but want justice for this boy who died most likely an atrocious death.
    Anyone that had knowledge beforehand and has been deceptive to LE needs to answer for their decisions and/or inaction.
    It would be interesting to know just who was in that 'caravan' of vehicles that showed up prior to the Spencer/cousin Itt interview.
    Imo.
     
  15. Rockymtnmermaid

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    Can you please tell me what site you go on to find these court docs? Thank you in advance!
     
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    Kinda surprised how little le has in this arrest warrant. I was expecting a lot of video snapshots of where she went with the rental car, what the murder weapon probably was, and some light to what all these eye witnesses are for and some guesses to a motive. I was expecting something like fotis dulos’ arrest warrant
     
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  17. mom2chloe

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    He wasn’t able to respond to his dad’s text because LS intentionally left Gannon’s phone at her first Petco stop. Surely peeps have already responded but I am way behind. HTH
     
  18. Seattle1

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    The AA predates GS body recovered in Florida, and obviously before investigators had any credible information leading them to Florida.

    The AA was actually to support that GS was a victim of homicide -- killed by LS in his bedroom located in El Paso County, Co.

    There was evidence of LS traveling to Douglas County, as well as a particleboard located there with blood confirmed to belong to GS.

    The first-degree murder charge would have gone forward as written-- whether or not GS body was ever located. According to the AA, it appears investigators believed that animals probably scattered GS remains.

    The Florida details will now be used to support the Tampering with a deceased human body (18-8-610.5), and Tampering with physical evidence (18-8-610(1)(a)) charges outlined in the complaint.

    MOO

    ETA: correct initials to LS. (Thank you @soap mama ). ;)
     
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  19. tiffkapow

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    Totally agree. HH is at a crossroads and what she chooses to do now will affect the rest of her life. I hope if she fully cooperates that she has a really good support system in some part of her family and with therapy, etc.
     
  20. gingergina

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    This actually makes a lot of sense
     
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