Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #12

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  1. RaspberryMama

    RaspberryMama Well-Known Member

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    The fact that she went back and forth so many times is why I don't believe she was taking him to urgent care or the ER, as has been speculated a couple of times. That's not the behavior of an adult getting a child urgent help.
     
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  2. Boxer

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    Yes it does. The hours on the rural roads.
    A couple of differences, surveillance cameras and the terrain.
    First thank you citizens who put these cameras up!
    Second, the Northwest is super dense woods and just off road is the forest floor is made of decomposing duff, moss etc. easy to dig into and leave something almost without a trace.
    Colorado is dry grass land with open spaces between wooded areas, and digging difficult even in summer.
    But cameras are greatest thing, MOO criminals can't get to and from CSs without being recorded.
     
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  3. Cindizzi

    Cindizzi Well-Known Member

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    Snow predicted for Monday night into Tuesday.
    Denver weather: What to know about the Monday-Tuesday snowstorm

    “an area of low pressure southeast of Denver will help create a more conventional setup for snowfall along the Front Range, though the heaviest snows will likely fall in southern Colorado. Colorado Springs and Pueblo could see closer to 6 inches from this storm, and the Palmer Divide will likely see higher amounts than Denver.“
     
  4. jvikes

    jvikes Well-Known Member

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    JMO, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that she has no idea cell phones can be tracked and if she googled that on GS's phone, maybe it was really to find out the answer? And if so, it probably wouldn't click with her that the nav system in the truck does the same, and that's why LE is at the spot they are right now. If that's the case (but its JMO), the only reason I see them not arresting her is fear of lawyering up. Like someone else said, LE knows her profile type and probably appreciate her ability to make public statements.
     
  5. SalMAnder

    SalMAnder Well-Known Member

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    I-25 has a lot of construction. 105 is a roundabout way to go to Denver.
     
  6. HongKongPhooey

    HongKongPhooey Well-Known Member

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    It was bizarre.

    To be fair Harley's case was also beyond bizarre.

    I think this case is much more straightforward tho :(
     
  7. imstilla.grandma

    imstilla.grandma On Time Out

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    It does make sense. Time is relative via vantage point. LS strikes me as one who panics in an emergency. At the point of stand still. She’s not likely to think clearly enough to leap into quick action to effect desired outcome. Deduction has led me to believe implementation of a strategic plan is not her forte. It makes sense to me she would seek guidance for immediate assistance. From the moment she took her selfie sitting in the front seat with Gannon before she drove away.
     
  8. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot New(ish) Member

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    To quote Pink Floyd, "All in all it's just another brick in the wall."

    To be more exact, it's just another brick in a cell wall.

    TS is doing a masterful job of helping the DA build a case.

    Looks like she missed her calling:

    She should have been a mason.

    JMO.
     
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  9. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    She also first said that LE has another very clear video from a different angle showing Gannon exiting the vehicle. “And DON’T you believe for one second that the police don’t have another video...” or whatever nonsense she said.
     
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    Especially Moms when carting children around IMO - you just don’t leave that safety behind unless something else is going on (I.e. you don’t want anyone knowing your location) JMO
     
  11. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yes. Then she destroyed her argument by talking about shadows, and (implying) advanced video analysis.

    Not something one would need with a clear video supporting Gannon’s return.

    And I thought Patrick Frazee was the dumbest person in the state of Colorado.
     
  12. Dre

    Dre Well-Known Member

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    So many things are damning in this case, she is 100% suspect numero uno to LE (imo) and they definitely have their reasons for not stating such... if they state soon that she is POI or suspect before arresting her, it will be calculated in order to push her buttons. There’s no going back though and they might be able to get way more out of her now while there is no lawyer whispering in her ear. Moo
     
  13. JDough

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    I respect your opinion and theory. I truly do. And I fully believe folks should be considered innocent until proven guilty. I would like to understand why you think this is what (may have) happened. Is your theory, then, that this individual has taken the life of Gannon (thus the daily searches to find his remains)? Or is your theory that this person is holding Gannon for some reason, and has planted/left evidence in the areas that have been searched to throw-off investigators?

    IF your theory is accurate, (and we know without a doubt there are numerous surveillance cameras in the neighborhood), why wouldn't LE release photos, vehicle information, time of departure, description of potential poi/suspect to the public? What would be the purpose of withholding this information if they feel Gannon is endangered? I don't believe they would keep this information from the public in order to prevent "tipping off" said individual? It could potentially be a threat to the public's safety, IMO.

    If TS knows who is responsible (addressed in her statement), why hasn't SHE, in the interest of bringing Gannon home, provided the information to the public? How can the public be on the lookout for individual(s), vehicle(s), etc.? LE has indicated that ANYONE with information about Gannon's disappearance is considered a POI. Wouldn't she want (even against LE's advice), to take the public's focus off of herself?

    I, personally, do not believe LE would be utilizing the services of numerous entities, digging in the snow at numerous locations, and collecting forensic evidence from the home or garage numerous times if the investigation indicated Gannon left with/was abducted by an unnamed individual. (Of course this would be my theory regarding the evidence collection I mentioned. I would be left to speculate that said individual would not want to risk losing a hair, dropping skin cells, leaving a fingerprint, or any other trace of themself(s) inside of the garage/home. But what would be the purpose for the collection then if the individual met Gannon outside)?
     
  14. Boxer

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    Honestly, by now MOO at least a few defense attorneys have contacted her pro bono and said "stop talking."
     
  15. MsBetsy

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    Yes, there was absolutely no reason to bring up anything about blood. She could have just said on Saturday she noticed Gannon walking around to the side of the house if she wanted people to think he left that way. Instead she seemed to highlight details that might explain any evidence that was found. Jmo
     
  16. jvikes

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    I believe timing of a video released that we can't discuss and her statement released tuesday explain this. SM may have discussed something in that video and that would explain her need to try and explain blood in her statement, IMO
     
  17. Silverheels

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    Other possibilities for taking 105 rather than I25 are (1) traffic issues on I25 due to an accident or construction; (2) the renaissance festival but that’s only six weeks during the summer; (3) wanting to take the scenic route to get to the west side of the Denver metro area.

    Those all seem like possible reasons for the SM to have been at the 105 location previously and may have informed her return to that area.

    MOO
     
  18. GordianKnot

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    You're in really good company, which is to say, "Me, too!"

    I even went so far as to say there'd never be a bigger moron on the face of the earth than PF.

    I stand corrected.

    I've been completely humbled…the first sentence of this post, notwithstanding.

    Lesson learned.

    I'll never say never again.

    Never.
     
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  19. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Armchair Detective

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    Which could mean possible sightings of certain vehicles of interest, or people other than Gannon, too.

    Of course, there may also be possible sightings reported of Gannon as well.....poor little Caylee was supposedly "spotted" all over the country, when in reality the child was decomposing in the woods :(

    MOO
     
  20. jillycat

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    Let’s not forget Chris Watts and his claim that his pregnant wife came home from a business trip and killed her other two kids, just because. Or Jessica Ridgeway’s killer who offered a DNA sample to LE.
     
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