Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #12

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  1. perception≠reality

    perception≠reality Well-Known Member

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    My heart sinks reading that. I know they need breaks, too. But every second that little boy is out there, without his mother’s/father’s arms wrapped around him for comfort, I want to cry. It’s a heavy heart kind of day today.
     
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  2. squareandrabbet

    squareandrabbet On Time Out

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    I did note that also; and I did come to the personal decision that someone else had said Landon, based upon my recollections of what others have written.

    Regardless, I think that presuming the speaker is intelligent they know friends' and family members' body language well enough. I have a friend who was an extra in a movie filmed in Washington Square Park. When I discovered this fact years later, I absolutely knew said friend when I found the person in the crowd with "his walk"; though it sounds kind of weird to say, especially about one's opposite sex friends, that you knew them from the motion of their backside walking away from you ;)., but I think many people can tell such a thing, more often than they realize.
     
  3. flashy09

    flashy09 Well-Known Member

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    This is disappointing, I really felt he would be found last night and if not then, today for sure. If he is not miraculously alive somewhere, I just want him found and the person responsible brought to justice. These days must be so awful for his parents. Imagine the emotions with every phone ring.
     
  4. floridamomma

    floridamomma Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I'm also stuck on HOW.
    HOW CAN ANYONE HURT A CHILD?

    Many years ago I got my then ten yr old home from wknd visit with dad. I immediately asked about his neck, and he said his uncle got mad bc he (kid) won in a video game and uncle strangled him and three him into the wal l. To this day, I....have no words. Well. Certainly nothing I can post here, but really, I've been frustrated...mad...I've been furious! But to hurt a kid? HOW, how can this happen? I suppose I will never understand it. It is just so, so sad.
     
  5. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    TS released a statement to Fox31.
    "“Please don’t think for a second that there isn’t enough of technology to determine shadows and movement around the truck. There was also proof from my phone that we had taken a selfie in the truck in our driveway that was time stamped,” she wrote.
    The statement said the sheriff’s office has had a description of Gannon’s friend that he was going to visit when he disappeared and several other details explaining what led to him visiting the friend. Investigators asked her to keep quiet about those details, it said."

    Missing 11-year-old Colorado boy’s stepmother releases statement about search
     
  6. kittythehare

    kittythehare Well-Known Member

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    depressing.
     
  7. MsMarple

    MsMarple Well-Known Member

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    Liars tend to lie. Reminds me of Lonzie B's mother doing an msm interview - insisting her face not be shown - where she said when her boyfriend dropped her off at work she gave Lonzie, who was in his carseat in the back, a kiss and told him she loved him. Problem was, at that time he was deceased.

    I know there's other news to cover today but I wish LE would give us an update.
     
  8. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Medical Anthropologist

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    I'm a terrible cynic and I'll say why I don't follow the "treat as innocent until proven guilty" rubric.

    One of my last in-field consulting jobs involved what was basically under cover work at a police station. There was a bad actor there. No one wanted to talk, but the Chief and the Sheriff himself wanted more info. So I interviewed a lot of people, hung out a lot, and documented everything. There was one very suspicious person (and several other somewhat suspicious cops). The suspicious cops were pointing fingers elsewhere, duly noted by both me and the Chief.

    I could not treat that Suspicious Cop as "innocent until proven guilty." He wasn't proved guilty for five years. He wasn't arrested for 2.5 years. The things I uncovered were not enough to arrest him (but they transferred him to a place where he could be watched better and where, frankly, we were all curious if the suspicious activity suddenly started there - it did). He was never caught on camera (long story).

    And he wasn't arrested for anything related to the initial concern. He was arrested for rape.

    I thought back about all the times he walked me out to my car (such a gentleman, right?) and stood by my window, telling me his life story. Which I duly recorded. Apparently it helped future investigators shed some light on his other sex crimes.

    But seriously, if I treated every suspicious person in my forensic life as "innocent," I might not still be among the living.

    If anything, I wish I'd considered that man way more dangerous than I thought at the time. I did take varying routes home, of course, but he had access to my address anyway (all cops can get your home address from your car plates). As it turned out, he had other plans in motion at the time. While he was only convicted of one rape, that was not his only sexual assault.

    I use my own personal instincts. When a student plagiarizes and I find the source, they're guilty. I don't file in court (though it's possible to do in theory, the steps to doing it are arcane and useless). They're not innocent and I don't need a court to show that. Bad behavior is what it is. And while I don't automatically assume each cheater is a thief and a rapist, they're definitely on my "do not trust" list.

    I consider people who break rules to be closer to breaking laws, and those who break laws are...likely to keep breaking laws unless some major intervention takes place. This is a point of personal protection for me, at my stage in life. I used to go out to prisons and befriend prisoners and be their penpals (when I was aged 18-21). Don't do that any more. Not so trusting.
     
  9. Silverheels

    Silverheels Well-Known Member

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    Just drove by again. It doesn’t look like they’re winding it down yet. A large group of searchers we’re heading out to search at that same area - behind the gate that looks like a screen. There was a lot of activity at that specific location again.
     
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  10. Momof4RN

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    As deserving as they all are I just don’t think that’s why they ended before sun down and possible snow moving in. They either have exhausted all efforts in that area or they found evidence leading them elsewhere or to an arrest. Moo
    I really expected a PC today regardless of how the day ended. Waiting on a sheriff update tweet as they have done every other day this week.
     
  11. JDough

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    I know I am not alone in saying how much local knowledge is appreciated (in addition to driving by locations, taking photos/videos, and sharing real-time information), here at WS. THANK YOU!

    Because you seem to be fairly familiar with the area, I do have a couple of questions if you don't mind?

    Are the roads in the current search area plowed for snow? If so, how high would the drifts have been on the date of Gannon's disappearance vs. now? How far off the road are they plowed? I'm just curious if searchers are having to navigate (and search through) these snowbanks to find what they are looking for?
     
  12. cody22

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    HOOORAY !.....Thank you.....moo
     
  13. zencompass

    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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    EPSC Sheriff's last update on twitter was 23 hours ago.

    I expect to see a new update within an hour or so- even if it's to state that the searches are ongoing.

    EPCSheriff (@EPCSheriff) | Twitter
     
  14. perception≠reality

    perception≠reality Well-Known Member

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    snipped by me for the section relevant to my reply...


    If LS did leave her phone at home, with the idea to claim she left it at home/forgot it at home, this would be a pretty silly statement for her to make. No reasonable person would believe she brought her phone to the truck, took a selfie, then returned to the house and “forgot” her phone. She doesn’t seem worried about having her phone in the truck or on the drive.

    I don’t think there’s any chance she left her phone home. Perhaps she turned it off at some point, and will claim the battery died, or she left it somewhere along the way and went back for it later, or she is just dumb enough to have taken her phone with her and it has provided the info LE needs to try to find Gannon.

    I wish we knew WHEN the search was done on Gannon’s phone regarding tracking, and if any of the results were viewed/clicked and what they said.

    edits to add

    JMO MOO IMO and such
     
  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Good. I trust you over any reporter.
     
  16. zencompass

    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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    Dear @Silverheels,

    The "like" button was not enough to thank you for this!

    You are remarkably kind to drive there and update us. Your compassion for Gannon is so deep and we are so appreciative of you!!
     
  17. prima.facie

    prima.facie Long Time Member

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    Above BBM

    The "shadow" and the door movement happen at the exact same time.
    My husband is a cyber security engineer for the government/military.
    Our plethora of 'equipment' cannot really get any better than it is, here at home....
    Again, the shadow and movement of door, literally happen at the same time.
    I have worked in photo/video analysis in my career history. While I cannot offer any more substantive proof - that is the conclusion I come to based on my own education and experience.

    The word "pareidolia" is a legit word too.

    JMPT....just my personal thoughts
     
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  18. sleuther0192837465

    sleuther0192837465 Stand up for what is right even if you stand alone

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    This is all one giant mind-you-know-what....and a middle finger to LH. It is MOO LS used Gannon to stick the screws to LH specifically & in HER mind, if the same arrow hit AS? So.Be.It.
    LS has told on herself over & over again. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but here we all are....wanting Gannon to come home, desperately & discussing LS like she is worthy. Makes me ill.
    LE is not saying a darn WORD. I do believe they’ve got LS pegged. They know more. They HAVE more...but they NEED Gannon to seal the deal.
    Praying EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. that they find him, for his parents & his lil sister & for everyone here & beyond that cares....MOO
     
  19. Dre

    Dre Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean by “just”? Someone had posted they were done for today...
    any chance they’re lying to put a certain someone at ease while they continue? I find it very hard to believe they’re at that same exact spot by the fence as yesterday and that nothings come of it...
    Fingers crossed they’re onto something and going slow to preserve all evidence.. moo
     
  20. Angels Advocate

    Angels Advocate Well-Known Member

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    Why would they ?
     
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