Originally Posted by SwampMama As a first responder (as is my husband), law enforcement's FIRST job in a volatile scene is to secure the scene, secure the suspects, tape off the area, crowd control, etc and ensure that first responders are safe. OUR safety come's first, we don't come onto the scene until it is safe to do so. We are not required to put our lives in danger.
JH is the one who caused that danger. So JH is handcuffed and searched and then LE still has 4 other suspects to deal with, as well as a quickly escalating scene. LE has their hand's full with all of that. Sorry that it seems callous to handcuff and search a dying girl but JH created this mess with her repeated bad choices. If that makes me a pr*ck to not put MY life in danger to rush onto an unsecured scene to save her, so be it. I can live with that.
The quote you are referencing, and the posts leading up to it, do not discuss first responders as leaving an injured/dying person with no assistance. The discussion is/was about what LE at that particular scene did and did not do. Unsure how/why first responders have been inserted into the post.
Issues discussed in earlier posts:
- did LEOs move Jessica from inside car to outside. IIRC, witnesses said LEOs, not 1st responders, moved her from car.
- once outside car, presumably Jessica was not ambulatory, who moved her ~100 feet along alley
(to where it meets the street, where a photo shows her, on ground, maybe on backboard or low gurney)?
Fred Hall's posts, earlier & this a.m., theorize one LEO moved
her 100' along the alley.
"The officers did not just take the driver out of the car; they apparently carried her to a location that was over 100 feet away from it. One of the officers would have been preoccupied with the passengers, so I'm guessing that the driver was carried by only one officer. How did he do it, I wonder? Fireman's carry? Arms carry?"
IMO, first responders have not been (inappropriately) inserted into the thread. They were at the scene & took action.
Personally, I'm not sure if first responders carried Jessica 100' along alley
if one or multiple LEOs
Seems like that info would be in LE or FR reports not yet publicly released.
I hope SwampMama & other first responders did not take offense at any implication - their input was not welcome.
On this and another forum I frequent first responders provide much needed info & insight re various aspects of their jobs.
Paid or volunteer, full time or part time, first responders make valuable contributions to RL
, as well as online.
Thank you very much SwampMama for your service. Ditto your husband. Ditto other FRs.:loveyou: