CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #21

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  1. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    http://www.9news.com/news/article/293104/222/Police-search-for-missing-Westminster-girl

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  3. Salem

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    MOD WARNING:

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    This hysteria and WILD speculation is utterly ridiculous and RUDE. I've watched perfectly innocent people, (members in good standing here!) be alluded to (sometimes outright, other times more thinly veiled) as a possible perp for weeks now and hoped folks would calm down.
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    Please continue the discussion here...
     
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    Not trying to get all complicated but here in California we have "raised foundation" houses which I always thought were kind of the same as having crawlspaces. Apparently not from what I've read here, but anyway the "crawlspaces" I've seen were mostly accessible from indoors only and kept locked. The "raised foundations" I've seen/lived in meant basically the house was a few feet off the ground and you could get around underneath it if need be to say run cable, check plumbing, etc. To get in from outside means unbolting a fairly sturdy locked window thing, and the only way to get into the house from the "raised foundation" area would be sawing through the floor, or I suppose pushing through the floor for the super-strong. "Basement" to me = at least a crude concrete floor/sides, and somewhere safer to hide in a hurricane or tornado. Celllar, IIRC from living on the East Coast for awhile fit more into what I picture as a "basement" but apparently I've lived in California too long because now I just picture a bunch of aging barrels of wine.

    In any case... OTHER than the crawlspaces mentioned earlier where the access is from inside the house only, the others seem like odors would be so noticeable from outside. Inside who knows - it's probably sealed off better, add in someone with a weak sense of smell, I can see something inside being less noticed possibly.

    (Sorry for the bad quoting job! Trying to bring it over from the old thread, just realized I posted this after it was closed. I hope it carries over ok.)
     
  7. MoonFlwr

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    Hi

    Been looking to see if there is any footage of Sigg in court, but I can't seem to find any.

    Is there any out there!?

    Thank you.
     
  8. Annie1004

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    No footage -- this was a juvenile court hearing -- only MSM descriptions of what occurred by eyewitnesses.
     
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    Ahh, I see!

    Thank you! :)
     
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    why would someone who was interested in all the stuff AS was, especially CSI stuff, leave DNA on the school bag and leave his cross?

    Did he want to get caught?

    Just curious, why?
     
  12. The Farm

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    In a hurry, only 17 and thinking like a 17 year old?

    I do not think he wanted to get caught, he was just getting started.
     
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    Don't know if there was DNA on the backpack, but it is very possible.

    I'm guessing there was DNA on the remains and obviously on the cross.

    He probably thought he wiped down the cross (if he left it on purpose and not accidentally lost it), not knowing wood is porous and wiping is useless.

    He may have tried to clean the remains, but that is easier said than done.

    The clothes may have had some DNA from him removing them if he did not wear gloves the entire time.

    But yeah, The Farm is right. Thinking like a 17 year old, in a hurry, scared and sloppy for someone that may have learned about DNA and crime scenes. I really think he had not learned enough yet too.
     
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    that could be it.

    But, I wonder....he was supposedly smart, but I guess NOT smart enough, or he wanted to get caught.
     
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    well, if he hadn't learned enough yet, let's give thanks, because now, he's off the streets.
     
  16. The Farm

    The Farm Well-Known Member

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    I work with smart people here and there. Degrees out the ying yang.

    Honestly sometimes the things they do are so STUPID. I see a huge lacking of common sense. Book smarts yes but..........
     
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    It is a long way from taking a couple classes at a community college and being competent at forensic examination technique (which includes techniques for preventing contamination of the crime scene with the tech's DNA). It takes having the techniques down to an almost automatic level, having a checklist, following a protocol established by experts, etc, to get to the point where a person knows enough to avoid contaminating a scene with their own DNA.

    This kid was obviously not there yet.

    I'm not even sure he thought he was there. So far, it sounds like it was a spur of the moment crime, where he saw an opportunity and took it without really thinking things through (which is good for the investigation). For instance, it sounds to me like he placed the backpack because he was getting nervous and needed to distract LE.
     
  18. rpgman

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    all good points.
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21857895/jessica-ridgeway-suspect-one-first-through-new-juvenile

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    Sigg's defense lawyers will likely move for a reverse-transfer hearing, said Kim Dvorchak, director of the Colorado Juvenile Defender Coalition.
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    If he is convicted as a minor charged as an adult, Sigg faces life in prison with the possibility of parole after 40 years on a single first-degree murder charge. Convictions on the additional charges would lengthen the sentence, Dvorchak said.
     
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    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-murder-austin-sigg-appears-in-court-thursday
     
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