Found Deceased CO - Jonelle Matthews, 12, Greeley, 20 Dec 1984

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    Very interesting. Earlier in this thread the Charley Project summary was posted which said GM and JM had moved to the Philippines. So now her mom and step father live in Costa Rica? They already believed Jonelle was deceased and had a memorial for her. I wonder if they will they come back to the States to bury her remains now that she has been found?

     
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    teedie2 Well-Known Member

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    Anyway, like the rest of you, I am so glad that this child has been found and identified. RIP Jonelle.

    Foo! Somehow deleted the first part of this post, had some questions, will come back later today and ask them...too late now. Need sleep.
     
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    I noticed discrepancies too - Costa Rica v Philippines and wondered about that. Thought perhaps they moved at some point but for some reason I have my doubts.

    I am glad that Margarita copied here yesterday Jonelle's Charley Project profile with this details because when I checked it today, almost everything is gone.

    What is left of it:

    Details of Disappearance
    Jonelle disappeared from her home in Greeley, Colorado on December 20, 1984; she was presumed abducted by unidentified intruder(s). In July 2019, her skeletal remains were found at an oil and gas site in rural Weld County, Colorado. Her murder is under investigation.

    Jonelle Renee Matthews – The Charley Project
     
  6. margarita25

    margarita25 We must stand together in solidarity-Dr.Tedros WHO

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    From above:

    “This year, police have made arrests in two of Greeley's longtime mysteries: the Mary Pierce slaying and the Tina Tournai Sandoval disappearance. Those two cases will likely go to trial next year. “

    Taking some notes, I’m still on page 1:

    1. “Mary Pierce slaying ”

    a) More than 30 years later, Mary Pierce homicide case, suspect appear in court
    May 27, 2010

    b) Timeline reveals DNA breakthroughs in Pierce murder case
    December 2, 2009

    c) 17-year-old Boulder girl kidnapped; found partially clothed
    1/17/2015

    The above headline refers to Christine: CO - CO - Christine Jones, 17, Boulder County, 1 Sept 1977 ; Mary Pierce’s case is addressed in the second half of the article:

    “Mary’s murder went unsolved for 32 years. Then in 2009, a DNA hit was made linking Marcello Maldonado-Perez, 51, then living in Port Charlotte, Florida, to the case.”

    2.“Tina Tournai Sandoval disappearance”

    a) After two decades, John Sandoval leads authorities to body of Tina Tournai Sandoval, missing now 21 years
    March 31, 2017

    b) FOUND: Remains of Tina Tournai-Sandoval found in grave of WWII vet
    March 31, 2017

    c) Tina Sandoval murder mystery solved - WeldDA
    03/31/2017

    —yay, Weld DA has a website :)

    Colorado also has the Open Records Act.
     
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  7. margarita25

    margarita25 We must stand together in solidarity-Dr.Tedros WHO

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    (Sorry for the double post, it’s 3:53 am and there are not a lot of posters in here right now; I also had to divide these posts due to length bc it was taking too long to scroll.)

    Wow.

    This is a great feeling to see “RESOLVED” :)

    Now who killed her?

    Here is the full window version of the updated CP page for the full picture; I like to see the “updates information” at the very bottom of the page:

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    Jonelle Renee Matthews
    RESOLVED

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    “Jonelle, circa 1984

    • Missing Since12/20/1984
    • Missing FromGreeley, Colorado
    • ClassificationNon-Family Abduction
    • Age12 years old
    • Distinguishing CharacteristicsCaucasian female.
    Details of Disappearance
    Jonelle disappeared from her home in Greeley, Colorado on December 20, 1984; she was presumed abducted by unidentified intruder(s). In July 2019, her skeletal remains were found at an oil and gas site in rural Weld County, Colorado. Her murder is under investigation.
    Investigating Agency
    • Greeley Police Department 303-350-9670
    Source Information
    Updated 9 times since October 12, 2004. Last updated July 25, 2019; case resolved.”

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    (Note to self to check something here, about to run out of time on this post)
    Greeley child snatched from living room after Christmas concert
     
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  8. Ven

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    Some thoughts:

    LE must know the shoe size of those footprints, and that could help them re: possible suspect.

    Step-father has been ruled out? Has air-tight alibi with other daughter at basketball game? They returned home together? Must be horrible for parents to be investigated when these tragedies happen but it's good to clear them asap.

    What about the friend's father who dropped her off from the concert? Who drops a 12 year old girl off home alone at night when they know she will be all alone? Especially when there is something weird with the garage door open? He could have known she was home alone, taken his own daughter home, and then returned by himself especially if conversation with Jonelle informed him that she would be alone until such-and-such time. What was his story or alibi after dropping her off? What kind of statements did he make in the interview? Did he inform LE that Jonelle suggested her parents would be home "any minute" or something like that, and that's why he left her alone?

    What about the father's business associate? She received a call from him at 8:30, he might have also known that she was home alone. The step-father, the step-father's friend, and the friend's father who dropped her off would have to be the three most likely people to have committed this crime.

    The last possibility is that leaving the garage door open invited unsavory people to scope out the property for a robbery attempt. They may have been casing the area just before Jonelle arrived home, noticed an easy opportunity to rob the residence, left and planned to return a short time later to conduct the crime, and then happened to find a 12 year old girl there by herself and decided to commit a different crime.

    Either way very sad case, glad she has been found.
     
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    Full version:

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    198DFCO - Jonelle Renee Matthews

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    Images 3 and 4: Age-progressed to 31 years and 42 years

    Name: Jonelle Renee Matthews
    Case Classification: Non-Family Abduction
    Missing Since: December 20, 1984
    Location Last Seen: Greeley, Weld County, Colorado

    Physical Description
    Date of Birth: February 9, 1972
    Age: 12 years old
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'2" to 5'3"
    Weight: 115 lbs.
    Hair Color: Brown, curly.
    Eye Color: Brown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Scar on her chin. Pierced ears.

    Identifiers
    Dentals: Available. She wore braces on her teeth.
    Fingerprints: Not Available
    DNA: Available

    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: Light blue ski jacket, red blouse, dark gray sweater vest, charcoal gray skirt, and house slippers.
    Jewelry: Unknown
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Jonelle Renee Matthews was last seen when friends dropped her off at her home at approximately 8:15 p.m., after having performed in a middle school Christmas concert earlier that evening. She took a phone call from a teacher at her father's school at 8:30 p.m. When her parents returned home between 9:30 and 10:00 p.m., the garage door was open, the television and lights inside the home were on, Jonelle's stockings and shoes were on the floor, but Jonelle was missing.

    Investigators discovered footprints in the garage and in the back of the house.

    Jonelle was adopted by the Matthews when she was a baby.

    Investigating Agency(s)
    Agency Name: Greeley Police Department
    Agency Contact Person: Detective Robert Cash
    Agency Phone Number: 970-350-9600
    Agency E-Mail: N/A
    Agency Case Number: 8441032

    NCIC Case Number: M141276311
    NamUs Case Number: 6367
    NCMEC Case Number: 601837

    Information Source(s)
    Namus
    NCMEC
    Colorado Bureau of Investigation
    Longmont Times Call News Archive

    Admin Notes
    Added: Prior to 2011; Last Updated: 3/20/16

     
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    Colorado Bureau of Investigation

    Colorado Cold Case Files - Case Detail: Jonelle Matthews


    Case Detail

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    Jonelle Matthews
    Case Details
    Case Type: Missing

    Height: 5' 2"

    Case Status: OPEN

    Weight: 115 lbs

    Aliases:

    Identifying Marks: Scar on chin. Pierced ears. Braces on teeth.

    Incident Date: 12/20/1984

    Occupation:

    Agency: Greeley Police Department

    City: Greeley

    Date of Birth: 02/09/1972

    County: Weld

    Date of Death: Unknown

    Agency Case #: GP84-41032

    Age: 12

    Judicial District: 19th Judicial District

    Gender: Female

    Year Solved:

    Race: Caucasian

    NamUs Case #: 6367

    Eyes: Brown

    NCMEC Case #: 601837

    Hair: Brown

    About this Case:
    On the evening of December 20, 1984, 12 year old Jonelle Matthews was dropped off at her parents home by her friend's family at approximately 8:30pm. When her parents returned home later that night, they discovered that Jonelle was missing. She was last seen wearing a red blouse, dark gray sweater vest, charcoal gray skirt, light blue ski jacket, and house slippers. Last three photos are age progression. Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to contact the Greeley Police Department.

    If you have any information about this case, please contact:
    Greeley Police Department

    Greeley


    (Source:
    Colorado Cold Case Files - Case Detail: Jonelle Matthews
    Colorado Bureau of Investigation )
     
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  12. CaliSun

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    The “business associate” was a teacher that needed a substitute the following day. Jonelle wrote a note for her Father (school principal) I believe it was a female teacher. See link below. Young Girl Kidnapped While Watching TV
     
  13. Ven

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    Thanks. What about anyone the teacher may have spoken to that night? A husband or boyfriend in the room who then would have known Jonelle was home alone? Seems like a stretch but at least worth looking into.

    Probably the most scrutinized POI would be the friend's father who dropped her off. But I wonder how discreet were they? It could have been as simple as a neighbor, someone next-door or couple houses down or across the street, outside having a smoke or taking out their garbage, and realizing that she was being dropped off alone and the opportunity was there.
     
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    The timeline is so tight. The perp had only 1 hour to do this. Imo it’s someone that knew she was home alone and knew they had to get her out fast. It’s someone associated with the family or maybe a neighbor that was watching the house and waiting for an opportunity. I don’t see how this was random. Hopefully she receives justice.
     
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    I’m new to this case and have just read many of the case links posted above. My first thought was the friend’s father who dropped her off. I don’t get the vibe that it would have been her father or a neighbor. A neighbor would really have to be watching the comings and goings of everyone to realize she was home alone. JMO. Anyone know if tbe person who dropped her off is still alive?
     
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    I wonder if the female teacher calling for a substitute was single or married with kids at the time? Was the teacher home alone when she called Jonelle's house? Could someone who was over at the teacher's house have been listening in on the phone call and then gone to Jonelle's house when he heard Jonelle was home alone? (For example: Teen kid's friend? Older student she was tutoring? Neighbor of the teacher? Date?) Back in the day of corded landlines it was easy to listen in on calls on another phone extension in another room. We would take out the bottom part of the phone handset so the person making a call could not hear us. They would only be clued in by a "click" if we hung up our phone before they did. If someone else was at the teacher's home and overheard info about Jonelle being home alone that person could have easily claimed they had no idea about the phone call.

    MOO.
     
  17. Ven

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    Sometimes I've seen an older adolescent relative related to someone else interviewed by LE winds up being the perp via DNA testing decades later. It's possible, as you suggested, someone in the household (older teen, boyfriend/husband) was aware of the phone conversation could have been the killer. Seems like a stretch but worth investigating.

    After reading through all of the news links and that 9 page story, I think the people who should be looked at the most:

    1. Friend's dad who dropped her off (could have taken his daughter home and then returned)
    2. Neighbors in the immediate vicinity, next-door, across the street. Etc.

    I wonder what was the story about the suspicious car in the area? How was the person cleared so easily?
     
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    Yeah, authorities have two suspects in the Elizabeth’s miller case but they aren’t strong suspects although one resulted in a confession
     
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