Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #17 *ARREST*

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  1. v0x

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    Agree, but if there was some life insurance or pension to be had, even if it goes to the baby, BONUS, because as the primary caregiver he would be the trustee! Although overall I agree the prime motivation was custody and moving on.
     
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    Uggg.... so the Judge may still allow secrecy to prevail.
     
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    Right! And we know what these guys did. Women who meet PF wouldn’t know what he did just like women who meet my ex don’t realize what he’s all about at first either. Men like this talk a good talk and plenty of women would fall it.
     
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    It’s not uncommon for them to say they think someone is deceased, but that is different than the court declaring the person legally dead. That can take a long time regardless of the evidence.
     
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    I don't think he wanted custody bc he was committed and involved, but I think he wanted custody. they have no grip on reality and do not realize the work of being a single parent. it doesn't occur to them when they are planning their partner's demise. it's all about power over the other parent.

     
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    Oh yes, it does happen! I actually know of a case where a guy was killed at a cottage. His wife was having an affair with his best friend. He brought the body back to his home and threw him under the pool liner for the winter. When things began thawing, he took out the body and placed him in a shallow grave under the shed. Unfortunate for him, his father was living with him and witnessed the suspicious activity. He called the police. Lots of respect for that man's father.
     
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    Well and who knows. If she has life insurance, she could have made PF the beneficiary before she ever even got pregnant and then just never got around to changing it.
     
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    I couldn’t agree more! PF might have been a good father until he wasn’t.
    jmo
     
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    Defendant filed motion to limit pretrial coverage; LE filed response in opposition.
     
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    Hahaha no. He is a horrible person. I met him when he was 22 and much easier on the eyes. But he talks a smooth game and presents himself as father of the year and women line up to go out with him. Thankfully most get away before they realize he is violent.
     
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    @nwmouse I was reluctant to mention this because it may be the one thing worse than being a murderer...but, if you’re going down that line of thinking, that she knew something or saw something that made him decide he had to kill her - that would be the only thing that would make sense to me.

    Edited: Sorry, I don’t know how to quote the comment I’m referrring to lol
     
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    unless he really was a mama's boy and never cooked or cleaned the kitchen, items in the kitchen wouldn't register on his radar.


     
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    Good question.
    Does he have an alibi? So far haven't heard of any.
     
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    I agree she could have had some evidence against him as a father that could have terminated his parenting rights.

     
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    Given that he premeditated this and had time to try and solicite the job to be done, I can’t imagine that is the case at all. I don’t know KB but I believe she would have taken immediate action to protect her daughter. That would have been as easy as calling 911 and taking her to the ER for an exam. The very next day a temporary court order would be made restraining him from any sort of contact. She wouldn’t have given him the chance to hurt the baby again, but he had time to plan her death. Even if he had only planned it for a day or two, 911 and the hospital were open. Courts were open the days prior to Thanksgiving. I highly doubt she’d be having happy chats with her mom and baking cinnamon rolls if that was going on.
     
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    Unlikely in the opinion of a lawyer that reviewed these documents in a recent YouTube post I’d posted earlier today. Check around the 10:30’ mark here:

     
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    In 2015 ...
     
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    Whatever I still think it's not how he did it IMO.
     
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    I don't think this is probable, reason being I think she would have wanted her mother to know what she was dealing with. I can't imagine her having an "everything is normal" conversation with her mom if she thought he was harming the baby. Now if her mother was the one leading everyone during the pressers to think all was fine but she knew that it wasn't that would be another story. I think if her mother was worried about PF at all she would have never gone a week without speaking to her daughter - tells me no red flags.
     
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