Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #22 *ARREST*

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  1. Sheenaisapunkrocker

    Sheenaisapunkrocker Well-Known Member

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    There's a Seinfeld episode where George does the complete opposite of his natural instinct and it works for awhile.
    I could see where an arrogant simpleton could think he could commit a major crime and get away with it just by refusing to talk or cooperate, after witnessing the colossal CW f-up.
     
  2. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    Oh shoot, Pommy, you are probably right. But I was having fun thinking up possible evidence that would be difficult to transport. :D
    Ok, let's say it's the phone. How cold is it in Idaho right now? Could they have found the phone frozen in a block of ice in a river somewhere? I know of a few bodies found that way and they had to remove a large block of ice around the person and then it was a very slow process to thaw. For a phone it might be easier but if Idaho is not processing the phone evidence maybe they are keeping it in a freezer and trying to figure out how to transport ice? o_O
    Ok, perhaps that is too far fetched. I hope Idaho LE would at least thaw the phone out pack it in some rice to dry it. I'll stop with the random speculating now. :rolleyes:
    I hope we find out something concrete soon!
     
  3. LietKynes

    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    Agreed and well said.
    Graphic warning follows :


    If KB was injured, prior to her murder, in such a way that 'matter'/blood spattered on the baby and car seat -- PF would be sure to destroy it !
    Unless he is a total fool--- and dropped it off during his 'dump run' ?
    And that was the evidence that led to his arrest ?
     
  4. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
    IMO, LE is employing a psychological tactic akin to Chinese water torture.
    IMO, they're trying to get *somebody* to crack.

    Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.

    Drip.
     
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  5. Steelslady

    Steelslady Well-Known Member

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    Send the armored truck escorted by 100 cops on motorcycles for all we care. Unless, it's a matter of, er, keeping something cold or preserved? What would be so sensitive that they can't just send a few LE's to drive it to CO or maybe meet halfway? Is it a legal issue?
     
  6. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Oh, I agree. I hope Kelsey's family is spared that horrid situation too.

    I think it is somewhat different when the children are older. Like in the Siever's case, the girls were old enough to know somewhat what was happening and taking to their father may have been comforting, at first.

    KB's child is just a baby.
     
  7. Concernedmamaof3

    Concernedmamaof3 Well-Known Member

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    Purely speculation, but what if the reason PF could trust someone enough to ask them to murder KB was because that person also wanted someone in their life dead? CB stated money was tight, so an easy leap would be he wouldn’t have funds to pay someone to do this. But if the plan was to murder each other’s person, it would ensure each of their hands were clean and they could each have an alibi.
     
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  8. Jessthinkin

    Jessthinkin Well-Known Member

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    Or his co-conspirators... someone needs to get to crackin’, even if it takes family members of those involved to try to talk some sense into them to cooperate, after hearing the last two days‘ news on every media outlet....
     
  9. Mercedes

    Mercedes Verified Lawyer

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    Assuming that PF has access to tv, internet or a newspaper.
     
  10. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Professional Pediatric Nurse

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    Wrap it up like you would a double wide trailer and seal it with evidence tape!
    Moo
     
  11. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Could it be the sister has read comments about her mom’s age/disability & feels it best if she, too, puts in an appearance. Back up support. My mom can take care of a child & I will help her.

    FWIW: imo, a disability does not make a person incapable of parenting. If so, if a woman is deaf, limped, had poor vision or missing a limb, should her children be taken from her at birth?
    Would it not be illegal to employ or otherwise use a baby sitter that “limped”, if a person with a limp is incapable of providing child care?
    IMO, K had no problem with Mrs. F tending to the baby.

    MOO
     
  12. PrairieWind

    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    It really is common for evidence to be mailed or Fed Ex’d. But this reference to “sensitive “ makes me think it’s something the Twin Falls PD isn’t comfortable mailing or is waiting for instructions on and doesn’t want to be blamed either way.
     
  13. SandyQLS

    SandyQLS may your life be filled with armadillos

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    The article calls it "sensitive evidence." I wonder if it something valuable like an engagement ring, other jewelry, gold bars or cash, that go with the felony murder/robbery charge. Maybe KB did keep gold or cash, and she would have told PF where she kept it hidden in the house. CB would also know. A spot up high requiring a ladder to access would be a good hiding place.
     
  14. Hatch

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    Speculative reporting perhaps, been a lot of that thus far.
     
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  15. Trudie

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    Bet if they had a horse trailer, it’d be back to CO already. Or fbi would have it in Quantico.

    Maybe, the evidence is something on paper. Written notes.
    Perhaps scanned copies have been transmitted but now they want to send originals. Or receipts?

    Just a thought.
     
  16. GordianKnot

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    This is true.
    IN presumably has access to all of the above....as does PF's family....and his attorney.
    What does PF have access to in jail, though?
     
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  17. PrairieWind

    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    I don’t think we know at all at this point. SF was apparently taking care of the child a lot. So, absent any evidence she is being implicated in any wrongdoing, she COULD make a strong case for temporary placement as it being least disruptive to the child and she remains in the county. PF’s sisters claim would be a little more difficult unless as you say it’s just that she is there and available to help SF.
     
  18. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    Not that has been made public. The state did the motions for the custody. I think it is a hard situation all around. I cannot even imagine not knowing where my daughter is and how she suffered. There is absolutely not fair for either grandmother to suffer this way.
     
  19. PommyMommy

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    It is currently 19 degrees in Twin Falls. :) If the phone was found, I'm guessing it was a result of one of the search warrants served there. We could speculate all day about where it was found, so I'll just stop there.
    MOO
     
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  20. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    I’m sure CO has asked other LE to not speak to the case. It’s CO’s case. Jmo
    What a run around News5 got. Lol
     
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