CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

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  1. moreofless

    moreofless Member

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    I only used it a couple of times and I may have deleted it. I found a few of them on Google Play. Unless someone had the physical phone to look at the APP, it is no different than any other text message. All the APP does is, at a specific time, access the messaging APP and send the message. It is no different that if you typed and sent it yourself.
     
  2. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Yes! Bless her heart, she is being careful not to hint at whatever is keeping her from seeing the baby. :(
    MOO
     
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    fraudqueen Senior Highway Safety Specialist/Fraud Detection

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    We are missing some BIG pieces to this puzzle.
     
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    All possibilities are still open but one reason why I tend to disagree with this theory is we really dont know anything about any planned or arranged handoff of the child on Thanksgiving day.

    There is only one person that could confirm if there was any planning for that and she is missing.
     
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    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    I agree; subject to change as we receive more information.
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    Kapua Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I was just trying to balance the conversation.
     
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    Yes, so I take it that he had to be a sister of Kelsey's in order to be a brother-in-law, as she is not married.
     
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    fraudqueen Senior Highway Safety Specialist/Fraud Detection

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    I wonder how close she lived to neighbors. Didn't they notice her cars hadn't moved for all that time and they hadn't seen a sign of her or the baby? Call me a noisy neighbor but I would have noticed and called the police (after I knocked on the door and looked through the windows...lol).
     
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    I believe her brother is in a same-sex marriage and the BIL is his spouse.
     
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    The provider would know. Basically, when sending SMS messages (messages that go via the cellular network) it works just like e-mail which something called "store and foreward". When you send a message you will, if you haven't turned off notifications, "sent". When that "sent" appears the message is now in the network. The network will attempt to locate the destination phone. If that phone is not found because the phone is off or in an area with no service the network will store your message in the destination phone's "inbox" and whenever that phone becomes available the network will send it on. With scheduling in something like Verizon's Message+ the message will be stored in your "outbox" on the network until the scheduled time when the network will attempt to send the message. That is how, of course, you can schedule a message for some time in the future and it will be sent and delivered whether your phone is off, in a no-service area, or even destroyed.
     
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    I'm curious if she had or was wearing an engagement ring.

    I have no idea what to think. The thought it my head is that when she talked to her mother, Kelsey thought she had dinner plans with her fiance and daughter. At some point during the day, perhaps an argument or unknown events, and dinner plans together were abandoned. PF took the child and how that occurred and what happened after that is a mystery to us.

    However, I could be easily persuaded on a different scenario because it's all very puzzling to me. I get the distinct feeling there is some important factor that Kelsey's family is trying to keep private that would explain a lot, but they don't believe it has to do with her mental health or that she's willingly staying away from her daughter, and there is a reason they are not sharing. (And LE isn't either.) I do believe Kelsey's family is doing exactly what LE is advising.
     
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    I understand! I just feel like that’s the typical response in cases like this from people (defensiveness and disbelief over possible scenarios..ie: CW). It was a little surprising to me to see people put specific scenarios out there that would put anyone in a negative light.
     
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    Mother of missing Colorado mom speaks out on daughter's disappearance
    “I can't think of anywhere she's gone where she hasn't told me,” she told NBC’s Joe Fryer. “It's just not in her character to do something, to just take off and be gone."

    Berreth said she spoke with her daughter, Kelsey, twice on Thanksgiving. She said her daughter initially just needed a recipe.

    “Her voice was fine. It was a normal day for her,” she said.

    The couple, who do not live together, have a strong bond, said Cheryl Berreth, who lives in Idaho but has been staying in Colorado during the investigation.

    "The relationship has been good. They're loving," she said.

    She said she doesn't find the speculation circulating helpful to the case.

    "Don't try to figure this out – we've got people trying to do that. Just share the photo There's more important things to be done," she said.
     
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    But he (PF) is, along with likely other people. So PF hasn’t been “isolated”. Weird phrasing yes. Almost as if it means less a big deal or something.
     
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    I was thinking Mom may have texted, called, left voicemails and finally became so concerned she called the police. I know I give it a day or two and then I'm contacting friends, etc. if I can't reach a loved one that I normally can easily reach. I have to wonder how many calls were made by Mom to others besides KB?
     
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    Agreed.. Many critical pieces of info are missing.. But we do know she called mom to ask about a recipe (probably not for cinnamon rolls) and she went to store for ingredients, and she did make rolls.. And that dinner was not planned at her place according to what she told her mom.

    So.. There were indeed plans.. Either with PF and company or a third party.

    Since police aren't confirming PF as a suspect, they may have info that points to a third party and not PF.
     
  20. Steelslady

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    Love. Respect.
     
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