Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by GuyfromCanada, Dec 3, 2018.
Thx My hard drive ( brain) is to full ! I did not capture the purse memory.
I do know that for sure have friends of all ages , just OCD needing to connect the dots. The dots are so elusive in this case.
I read somewhere that M had worked or still does work in a hospital. Probably met there.
Well it is to late to delete that part of my post about rooming together, but I won't rest until I find the info again. I like the rest of the WS's want real verification and not rumor.
I think she was killed on Thanksgiving because the cinnamon rolls were still on the stove. Then again. we don't know when she baked those, do we? Could have been on Friday.
I'd like to know when anyone first tried to call Kelsey, after her two calls with her mom, on Thanksgiving. Knowing the time of the first unanswered & unreturned call would narrow down when she was killed.
I was looking around some of my links on this case, and while I did not find what you're seeking, I saw something I did not notice before:
Mistress nurse was unaware that killer fiance Patrick Frazee was engaged or had a child | Daily Mail Online
"... When asked if Krystal had ever stated that she was fearful of Frazee, Stein replied: 'She did tell me that she's never seen that kind of evil in anybody.'
That is why she agreed to not only dispose of Berreth's phone, but also make texts to her employer and Frazee from the cell.
'I will just tell you Krystal was very, very scared,' said Stein. ..."
Thanks for that. Yeah, I'll bet a lot comes out through art and play. Seems I saw something, not long ago, where a little child of a murdered mother had the Ken doll beating on the Barbie doll. The Ken doll would have been her father.
I don't know if you've ever heard of Trauma Reducing Exercises (TRE) but I think that would be a great therapy for little ones with implicit traumatic memory.
Ok, I would not have driven 800 miles, I would have tried to save KB's life at all costs.
In the event I wasn't thinking clearly and believing his veiled threats, the min I drove off, it would get REAL!
"Out of fear."
Yeah I'd "dump it" at the nearest police station and give them his name, then tell them to figure it out.
I'm really beginning to suspect she may have gone to LE in Idaho when she got home and spilled the beans. With prone in hand!
LE reported what they wanted to, how they wanted to as the case unfolded.
I can't see her "getting off easy" any other way!
Yes! I am guessing that the phone was in transit "around town" and no surveillance cameras showed KB in the footage...
Just a hunch!
Yes, a lost profession, unless it's for Oxygen or ID networks!
I wish I could have copied and pasted years of my profession and gotten paid for it!
When I grew up it was called plagiarism! That would result in a grade no more than "0" ZERO!
It seems now people get a yearly salary for copying someone else's reporting.
Pathetic! Even the tye reporter who initially posted the story allows others to steal their own work with little to no comment.
Better yet, when did PF STOP calling KB?
When he KNEW she was deceased and couldn't return his calls?
"her mother" or her parents?
I don’t have a link, as I thought the purse and keys were actually missing. Hoping ajaylee can help us out.
Police said when they searched her two cars and residence they found cold, recently baked cinnamon rolls, according to ABC News.
Search intensifies for mom who vanished on Thanksgiving Day
Police checked Kelsey’s apartment, where cold baked cinnamon rolls were on the counter, and she had left her makeup bag, two vehicles, suitcases and other possessions, said Police Chief Miles De Young.
Armed with a search warrant, they also combed through her vehicles, De Young said.
Cold resently baked
Just my opine.
I thought early on that she baked cinnamon rolls, talked to mom about a recipe. She took cinnamon rolls out of oven went to store for ingredient (cctv) and went home.
I wonder now if the ingredient she purchased was at the house.
Also in reference to KK and the three solicitations, did she travel to that area once a month for any reason.?
Yes. People are absolutely correct that KB's phone records are going to tell the story of precisely when she was murdered.
As soon as phone activity begins to cease on her phone. Everyone on the jury that has a cell phone will be able to look at KB's phone records and make a valid deduction on the date and timeframe.
And that is evidence that LE most surely already has gotten directly from the phone service provider.
There was an incorrect report early on that her mother lived around Gooding Idaho if that is what this is all about.
I think everything we are seeing so far is CYA and a poorly played game of chess. It is about partial lies with a little truth. The gravest question we have is why KB is missing or deceased? We then have to answer if she is deceased where is she? How does PF benefit from her death? How would others benefit from her death?
There also a problem if the prosecution cannot show PF is not the solicitor versus the encouraged which would mean they have read ALL communications from beginning to end.
I don't think we know that PF had her purse and keys through any info from LE or MSM. I think it's just an assumption that once he had killed KB he had control of them until such time he or someone else (guess who?) disposed of them.
It seems her suitcases were mentioned quite often. I wonder if they were packed?