CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #4

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  1. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Clearly. They would've just grabbed the baby and taken him separately.

    We jump the gun too quickly on here sometimes I think. The dude leaving with his kid in a patrol car means he's been arrested. And is handing the baby over to his mother in law to be even though he hasn't let her see the baby and would not have to at all if arrested. He could still designate who takes the kid.

    LE officials who look to be crouched down during the search must be a group of people arrested and forced to kneel instead of LE just looking at something or taking a rest for a moment.
     


  2. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Same with talking.
    My oldest did both by this time walking,and talking before 1yr, my middle one walked after 1yr,and only I,and my oldest could understand his babble until age 4yrs. We did a lot of translating for him
     
  3. oviedo

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    IMO you can't really hide Deed ownership when there are searchable public records - although a Land Trust does it neatly where I live and you have a Trustee unrelated to the person who sets up the Trust...that information regarding the Land Trust itself is not in the public record - a neat way to hide your ownership in a piece of property should you ever need to.
     
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  4. gitana1

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    Yes. Absolutely.
     
  5. gitana1

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    Likelihood is they won't after so much time. But they have to try. What if they didn't and missed something?

    They'd just continue on investigating if they found nothing.
     
  6. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    I actually thought they were looking at something.
    Like out of the area foliage stuck to the undercarriage of the vehicle ?

    It would be the best thing for this to have a surprise -- and happier -- ending.
    I hate it when an innocent person's life is stolen from them. No one has that right.
     
  7. spaz1959

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    Welcome Kelsey's Aunt. I'm so very sorry that this is happening to your family, sending prayers for a miracle homecoming
    My question is this, Kelsey and Frazee are engaged, and parents to a one year old. Why weren't they celebrating Thanksgiving together, as a family? Did Kelsey have to work that day?
     
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    Reminds me of Josh Powell
     
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    I couldn't agree more!!
     
  10. Iamlysaloo

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    With everyone looking for her and making national news I would hope she'd legit contact SOMEONE. Not a text.
     
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    I hope! Except they were facing away from the vehicle.
     
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    Press conference at 2:30PM MT 4:30PM EST search warrant for PF's home this morning and they took him away (not arrested) in a police car with his daughter. More light will be shed on this case very soon.
     
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    These dogs are amazing. I did quite a bit of research about them during the Charli Scott case.
     
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    Does someone have a link so I can see that?
     
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    I would disagree. Him leaving in LE vehicle with the baby would, to me, indicate he was not under arrest. His vehicles at the home would be subject to the warrant as well, so he wouldn't be able to leave in his own. LE would probably give him a ride to his attorney's office or something to get him out of the way. If LE went there to arrest him, they would have had someone from family services along to take the baby. Someone under arrest like that could be very unstable. No way they would let him get in there with the baby.
     
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    I would be screaming my innocence (if that is the case) from the roof tops and not give a damn what my Atty said, or anyone for that matter even if instructed not to.
    What harm would it do, if your innocent that is.?
     
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    Exactly.

    In another case of a missing hiker one of our SAR people said it best. It is not time waisted when you search for someone and dont find anything because you now know where the person is not, and that helps you to focus elsewhere.
     
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    Sam Kraemer on Twitter
    We just got on scene. There are a lot of agencies here: FBI Evidence Team, Colorado Bureau of Investigation, Teller County Search & Rescue and Woodland Park Police. Dogs & air assets are being used. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth

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  19. gitana1

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    That's what I'm saying. He was clearly not under arrest!!
     
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