Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #40 *ARREST*

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  1. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    As we see here, people like PF and KK exist amongst us.
    We recently heard about the Watts and Closs cases, and there are many others.

    It is far better to be boring, have dull friends and have little excitement in our lives, than to experience the traumatic incidents these Creeps undertake, ruining their lives and those around them.
    These evil monsters are wired different than most humans, to even consider their actions.
    Hope somehow their pathetic lives are cut short, having them pay for their deeds.

    Here, we are concentrating on KK's account, what she has stated.
    It certainly doesn't relate to that of a decent human being.
    Hope she pays heavily.
    MOO.
     


  2. WildcatRunner

    WildcatRunner Well-Known Member

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    Great point that I did not consider. Thank you.

    ETA: I am just dumbfounded she knows SO much detail.
     
  3. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    I know this is totally beside the point, but I was kind of impressed that a combination of OxyClean and Windex were able to clean up the crime scene to the point that blood wasn't detected even with the dogs.
     
  4. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    You have summarized these people so well: subhuman animals.
     
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  5. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This guy trusted her so much, that he was comfortable enough to ask her to kill for him.

    It stands to reason, that he’d also trust her enough to tell her about the gory details.

    I mean, he trusted her to help clean a crime scene, retrieve a body, burn that body, and take Kelsey’s phone back to Idaho.

    He likely told her everything, so it rings true to me that she knew everything.
     
  6. Mom24

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    It's very common when a partner is cheating to be very cruel to the person they're cheating on. For instance, they'll pick at things, make the other person wrong, become verbally abusive, always find fault, blow up over trivial things, etc. I call it putting their partner in "***** mode" so they can blame them for their cheating. We had heard from KB's friend that PF had become emotionally abusive, always finding fault. Combine that with exhaustion, trying to take care of a new baby, and most likely having problems with the extended family and it's no wonder KB was depressed. He was playing head games with her and making her feel worthless and I'm sure his family wasn't giving her any support either.
     
  7. Hopefullyhelpful

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    I don’t think we can believe anything PF or KK say Kelsey said.
     
  8. sunshineandlove

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    Not sure how the law works but is there even a potential that she could be charged for anything additional or is her plea deal for immunity for all potential charges except what she's already been charged and convicted of? It's just really disappointing as she had such a huge role in these crimes from conspiring to considering to covering it up.
     
  9. Artis

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    I'm way behind here but, yeah, I need a clear timeline on what happened when. I'm not clear on it.
     
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    almost like she researched it :eek::eek:
     
  11. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Hi Stratescoop, with your first post here.:):):)
    It is a really miserable day/night hearing about these evil actions.
    I agree, I hope KK is torn to threads.
    MOO.
     
  12. Artis

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    And we know she's a lying sack of s*** trying to save her own neck.
     
  13. missy1974

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    I just don't understand. At what point in a relationship do you trust someone enough to ask to do that? or tell all of the details to like that?

    I've been married for almost 20 years. I dunno... I think he would rat me out :confused:
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    It’s a huge longshot, one based more on wishful thinking than reality.

    All the things we heard in court today, came from the prosecution, who were the ones who struck this deal with KK.

    People lie. People involved in crimes lie. People involved in murders lie.

    The prosecution and law enforcement know this.

    They would have heard what KK had to say, and if they were comfortable that what she was saying was truthful, then they would be comfortable moving forward with a deal.

    Clearly, that’s what happened.

    This deal is contingent upon KK being truthful, and there is still room there for her to tell some face saving lies.

    No one believes that she purposefully left a trail of evidence.

    But a lie like that cannot be proven, and probably wouldn’t be grounds to tear up her deal anyways.

    As long as she is truthful about her involvement, this deal will stand.
     
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    I believe it said they got romantically involved in March of 2018.
     
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    As a poster stated, these subhuman masterminds will unravel before us, with their evil plans.
    There must be so many people, knowing they were lied to, for days.
    Pleased these subhumans, will now answer to the Law.
    MOO.
     
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    I think it was the brother who got to the ranchette at 2:30 and PF with K got there around 4:30. PF went back later that evening to take her body to the Nash ranch. That's my understanding, but may not be correct. JMO.
     
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    I think they connected over this, bonded over it. They're two peas in a sick pod.
     
  19. SoCalDavidS

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    It's an old favorite. The 'if I were going to knowingly commit a crime such as that, I certainly would have done a better, more perfect job, and not have left a trace of evidence. I left that on purpose, as an alibi....ya see.'
     
  20. Mom24

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    The thing is, the people that know her will want to believe she left that trail. They'll want to believe she was only doing PF's bidding. And they'll want to believe she did it because she was stuck between a rock and hard place to protect her children. But as they hear the story, and see the inconsistencies we see, they'll get that this person they knew, respected, friended and cared for never really existed. Trust me, she's going to end up very alone, surrounded only by people looking to use or exploit her.
     
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