Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #50 *ARREST*

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  1. Trocroc9

    Trocroc9 Well-Known Member

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    You are absolutely correct. When cornered she was like a deer in headlights. Her only excuse was so lame for being a solicitor to murder and she knew that.
    She had no other argument but to say how he scared her into doing it .. yeah right!!
     
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  2. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Well-Known Member

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    BBM:

    Solicitation charges have not been dropped.

    The only thing that's been dropped is my jaw...in response to this post.

    JMO.
     
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  3. k-mac

    k-mac Well-Known Member

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    the key to heartbreak and trauma recovery.

    PURPOSE.

    a beautiful little granddaughter who needs her grandma.....would be getting CB through her days.
     
  4. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    BBM, what plan do you think PF had?
     
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  5. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Exactly! I’m stunned that there is any criticism for her claiming extreme emotional distress from her daughter’s murder, and at the same time fighting for custody.

    How about both?!
     
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  6. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    ^THIS
     
  7. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Well-Known Member

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    I'm struggling to make any sense out of the argument some are trying to make.

    Is is seriously being suggested that if DB and CB were to show themselves to be completely unaffected by their daughter's brutal murder, that would somehow demonstrate to a court their fitness to care for and raise Baby K.?

    Because for them to be completely unaffected by KB's murder, they'd have to be cold, unfeeling, heartless, sociopathic monsters. Like PF.

    I'm baffled by this argument. Utterly befuddled.
    Primarily because it's complete nonsense.

    JMO.
     
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  8. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Beautifully and thoughtfully stated nwmouse.
     
  9. LietKynes

    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    We can certainly speculate.
    It's not impossible to imagine what PF has been advised about from his cronies.
     
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  10. Trocroc9

    Trocroc9 Well-Known Member

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    In regards to him leaving the cars behind:
    This is absolutely just speculation but I had an idea that stems from the SW. MOO. When LE interviews RS he states check into “Eric” a pilot at Southwest Airlines. I’m thinking PF puts this idea into RS’s head (and I’m sure many others) that she has a boyfriend or is seeing someone new. Which also corroborates the story of PF saying she had dinner with a friend in Pueblo. PF then says we got into a fight and this guy picked her up. This eliminates the cumbersome ordeal for him to get rid of a car. In my opinion it’s not so easy to get rid of a big hunk of metal.
     
  11. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Good for us PF isn't a criminal mastermind after all :D
    I think it's a shame he took everything from KB and has forced his own daughter to grow up without her mother and a father in prison.

    PF wasn't man enough to just walk away with a reasonable plan to co-parent and move on, he had to hand out an ultimate punishment. :(
    MOO
     
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    @4th Judicial DA Tweet
    From the Woodland Park Police Department: S R was contacted by law enforcement, interviewed and cleared in this case. We ask that the R family not be harassed and appreciate her cooperation with investigators.

    3:27 PM - 15 Mar 2019

    eta: changed to initials
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Glad to see them clear this up.

    Unfortunately, good ole Chris Spargo did his damage a few days ago.

    I’m confident that we won’t have to wait much longer, until he screws something else up.
     
  15. PommyMommy

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    I can see where you're going with this, but it would have been a stoooopid plan without knowledge of Eric's location at the time of the murder. His alibi could be, and probably is, rock-solid. But you know, as @GordianKnot likes to say, we're talking about PF here...stupid is as stupid does and all that. Pfft, lol.
    MOO

    ETA: I want to make it clear that when I said stupid, I meant PF, not you
    @Trocroc9! :oops:
     
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  16. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I don't think the issue of mental health would even come up in family court. Even parents who are diagnosed with mental health disorders have rights that protect them from being discriminated against.
    A parent may be considered unfit if they are incapable of caring for a child, EVEN with support (such as family, counseling services, or medication) AND the disability is likely to continue in the foreseeable future.
    I don't think it will be a problem. Imo
     
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  17. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Well-Known Member

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    BBMFF:

    If by heckuva case you mean the limpest biscuit ever (half)baked, then I agree:
    The defense has one heckuva case to try to make.
    I don't think PF and his attorney have a solid leg to stand on, which is going to make it well nigh to impossible for them to mount anything, much less a viable defense.
    PF's mounting days are over.

    The conclusions that some are comfortable with reaching at this point are not based on assumptions. They are based on known facts. We have learned a lot of the evidence.
    We have seen the warrants. We have heard what was presented at the pc hearing.
    DA May didn't enter "assumptions" into court. He presented evidence.

    It is not "naive" to reach conclusions based on known facts, nor is it "tunnel vision" to recognize and identify key pieces of evidence in a case, and to assemble those pieces into a logical whole.

    There are so many posters here who have a really impressive ability to mentally sort, sift, assimilate, and assemble facts. A lot of the posters here on this thread have superb analytical skills and lightning-quick mental processing speed. That doesn't mean they're making assumptions or employing "tunnel vision."

    JMO.
     
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  18. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Exactly. If the evidence all points in one direction, that ain’t “tunnel vision.”

    That’s a bullseye.
     
  19. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Well-Known Member

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    As is your post! 50 points, dead center!!

    You win the internet today.
     
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  20. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    These people are such idiots. They just throw stuff out there. Like it can't be checked out.
    The freedom clock is counting down must be hard getting any decent sleep.
     
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