Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by GuyfromCanada, Dec 3, 2018.
I have no idea what others mean when saying it. I only know what I mean when I say it.
I agree, although I strongly believe that the teeth are going to be unrelated.
They don’t need a body to prove murder.
Didn't KK say that she had to remove a tooth from an air-vent in KB's condo when she was ordered by PF to help with the clean up? Edited to add: I guess she didn't keep that tooth and disposed of it.
I'm just a Junior Sleuther here to learn from the wise.
Yes, but they never recovered that tooth.
So it all depends on if the jury believes her.
I thought you were referring to the teeth that were recovered as part of the search warrant executed at the Frazee ranchette.
No, I was thinking of KK trying to get KB's tooth out an air vent after Frazee's fat fingers couldn't get into the crevice.
Its a small but significant detail she gave that rings true to me.
I always thought the teeth found at the Ranchette belonged to little PF or his siblings. The tooth fairy just forgot about them!
EBM for spelling.
Yeah, it absolutely rings true to me as well.
It’s too vivid a detail just to be made up.
Especially because it makes KK look worse, as she knew exactly what she was helping with.
These people are such dummies I expect the tooth to fall out of KK's cowboy boot as she makes her way up to testify!
I believe they burned the tote with KB in it. If PF didn't trust KK, and wanted to fool her about where the body was...why pull her into the murder clean up at all?
Why make her privy to every detail...details that will come back to bite you in the ass?
If he didnt trust her I think he would have just killed KB when they were out in the middle of nowhere, tending to cattle...or on a hike ...or whatever, and then disposed of her.
I believe the whole "you have a mess to clean up" was about power and punishment for not doing what he wanted with the other attempts to kill KB.
It was a "get your ass down here and do what I say" move..and she did it.
If he really doubted her , I don't think he would have given her the phone to take with head send the texts and ultimately destroy it. MOO
That’s where I’m at.
He demonstrated complete trust in her, as he put his freedom in her hands.
I think this was a pattern, one in which he did not deviate from.
MG, your phrase, "for all intents and purposes" made me remember someone a bit less wordsmith-y than you writing "for all in tents and porpoises". Thanks for the chuckle!
At the stroke of midnight the word that sums up PF's attempt at committing the perfect crime:
Highly unlikely imo. I think he used and preyed on a particular kind of woman that he had groomed. I think by the time he was finished grooming Kk, she was an entirely different person than the young rodeo queen from youth. Jmo.
I think the odor would have been convincing enough. There were several times in the transport of the tote and body where KK have been up close and possibly in contact with tote. It was not the type of tote that would have sealed in odors.
Saying she saw the “lump” was her way of distancing herself from the reality and making herself seem less culpable to LE.
Oregon, I think you're exactly right!
I believe he had no problem whatsoever showing Ma F that the job was done. He knew she was home when he burned the body. I believe she very heavily influenced his opinions of kB. I’d even go so far as to say it may have been her idea.
justpeachy, I don't think we're allowed to say that here but if we were I probably would but we're not so I won't.
ITA, she had figured out the perfect way to get rid of KB and if anything went wrong KK would take the rap and be the one in jail. She obviously didn't recognize the actual # of functional brain cells between PF and KK.
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Absolutely, but they interviewed her & deemed she wouldn’t be charged
SK's answer to someone, who said, the connection with SR/phone would be still interesting.