Deceased/Not Found CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #51 *ARREST*

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  1. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    She may not have known. If the caller wishes to be anonymous they cannot reveal who made the call.
    Maybe Kelsey discussed it with him and he said something like, "I can't imagine who would call. Maybe one of your neighbors saw a burn mark and reported it. Don't worry about it."
    Usually a parent who is deceitful and has an agenda will never admit to the other parent that they did it. Imo
     
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    Where are you reading that the DHS interview took place in March? I still don't see that anywhere. MOO
     
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    Ahh...I never thought of that. Thank you.
     
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    We don't know who contacted DHS. It seems most likely that it was PF, but there are other family members currently interested in custody of baby K... PF could have told KB it wasn't him, and she may have believed him. MOO
     
  5. MsBetsy

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    So apparently after Social Services completed their investigation, they found no evidence of abuse, and therefore did not open a case against Kelsey.
    Probably all they were able to find were witnesses who claimed PF told them of abuse but no actual proof of abuse.
    They will only open a case if they have enough evidence to support the claim, such as failure to take the child to well visits, not up to date on immunizations, poor living conditions, or other eye witness accounts. Imo
     
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    I know the Daily Mail says that PF reported KB to DHS, but that is not what the motion says. While he's the most likely culprit, the document does not say who reported or when they reported.

    From the motion filed March 20, 2019: "The records relate to the charged crimes in this case, and include extensive interviews documenting statements made by the Defendant and witnesses in this case."
    https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/P-9 People's Notice of Department of Human Services Records in the District Attorney's Possession and Motion for Disclosure and Protective Order.pdf

    MOO
     
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  7. MsBetsy

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    Yes, he could have asked any number of people to do it. Social Services have to keep the reporter anonymous if they request it, so they would have nothing to lose by reporting it. Imo
     
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    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    What March DHS interview?

    The only March is when this was filed? see attached.

    https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...otion for Disclosure and Protective Order.pdf
     

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    Pommy, thanks for the clarification ... I am so far behind on everything, but I always know there are people like you who keep us on track :)
     
  10. Mom24

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    She would not have been told where the allegations were coming from. CPS will only tell you there are allegations, but not where they came from.
     
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    I'm sorry, and I know this is no laughing matter, but SO and I can't help but appreciate your black humor. Thank you.
     
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    OH! Wait a second, is the article from The Gazette stating the March 2oth filing was the DHS initial receipt of allegations or was that the date of the filing from the DA to keep the DHS records closed to the public? I assumed the March 20 date was in reference to initial filings made by PF in his allegations to DHS, but now that I've re-read it it seems that the March 20 date is in reference to filings with the court made by the DA to seal those DHS records. Poop. So the March 20 is DA filing with the court?
     
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    OH! Wait a second, is the article from The Gazette stating the March 2oth filing was the DHS initial receipt of allegations or was that the date of the filing from the DA to keep the DHS records closed to the public? I assumed the March 20 date was in reference to initial filings made by PF in his allegations to DHS, but now that I've re-read it it seems that the March 20 date is in reference to filings with the court made by the DA to seal those DHS records. Poop. So the March 20 is DA filing with the court?
     
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    I know I'm probably rehashing old turf, but are you guys as surprised as I about just how many times KK drove 800 miles in this mess? I stress about driving the 20 miles to town down a curvy canyon, and KK just pops into her vehicle (or someone else's) and troops on over to Colorado. That last trip was a doozie tho and apparently grounded her in Idaho.
     
  15. PommyMommy

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    The state's motion was filed March 20, 2019. The motion does not say when the report was made to DHS or who reported to them, just that it includes extensive interviews and statements made by the defendant and witnesses in this case. MOO
     
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    Yes, I totally goofed on that one. Thanks for the quick catch on it before it totally got off the rails!
     
  17. PommyMommy

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    No problem, and you're welcome. Unfortunately, I don't think we will see the details of this report until trial. MOO
     
  18. Kapua

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    Very surprised! That is a very, very long drive. I had to Google. It's almost the length of California, farther than Eureka to San Diego, which is 764 miles! Personally, I cannot imagine making several road trips of that length. KKL missed her calling; she should have been a long-haul trucker. MOO
     
  19. crhedBngr

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    RBBM

    Long-haul trucking may be one of the very, very few job options open to her when her nursing license terminates.
     
  20. GordianKnot

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    Now, there's a thought!

    Based on some cursory online research, it looks like some trucking companies hire felons.
    KK will likely be pursuing a second career here shortly. Long hauls are clearly her forte.

    There are those nifty CB radio thingys in the 18-wheelers, so she won't even have to worry about carrying a murder victim's cell phone with her to send/receive bogus texts.

    Also, there are probably plenty of Sonic drive-thrus located right off those major interstate exits, so that'd be an added incentive.

    JMO.
     
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