CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #7

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  1. SandyQLS

    SandyQLS may your life be filled with acorns

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    MassGuy said:
    Plot twist, there is no baby! But yeah, no matter what truly happened, it’s clear that PF took the baby at some point later in the day. She’s there.

    Steelhead said:
    bbm. According to whom? PF?


    SandyQLS said:
    Per LE flyer.
     
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  2. Steelhead

    Steelhead Well-Known Member

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    BBM- According to whom? What’s clear to me is that PF now has the child. It is not clear when he got her. Could have been the day before for all we know.
     
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    Dumping it close to the home achieves nothing. It might be found, with his DNA on the steering wheel and the front seat.

    Farther away? Unless his name was on the registration, he risked driving her car alone, esp. in the holidays.

    ETA. Perhaps he counted on some planes taking off the airport that day, but none did?
     
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  4. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Law enforcement has said that PF picked up the baby at some point after Kelsey returned with her from the grocery store.

    The video that was released, shows mother and daughter together on that day, the 22nd.
     
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  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Awe.. don't sweat it: the Gazette was one of the first to name the family members in LE, and by afternoon scrubbed the full paragraph from their news report-- not because it was not true, but allegedly because family thought it placed them at risk. ;)
     
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  6. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Clearly the Gazette has the backbone of a gummy worm.

    It’s kind of relevant.
     
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  7. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Haaaaa! Follow the money: it all leads back to CORA...
     
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  8. Steelhead

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    I would agree with this if I could say without a shadow of a doubt that the baby was in that car seat. She very well may be, but I can’t see her. Hopefully LE isn’t using that clip as their only proof of her being there.
     
  9. tmar

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    Perhaps KB's friends/acquaintances/work colleagues have reported info to LE.
    Similarly with PF's friends/business associates.
    It is just, LE has not released this.
    MOO.
     
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  10. Snow Flower

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    I can’t really put my finger on what it is but something in this case feels “off” to me. There are a whole lot of statements that are contradictory from her family members. For instance the statements regarding PF getting the baby. Some are saying he picked her up and others are saying she took the baby to him. I have seen both in print in different newspapers, etc. I am waiting for another shoe to drop in this case. There has to be a whole lot more too it. JMO
     
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    I couldn't really see her at first, but I paused the video at 8 seconds and then ran it in slow motion and I can definitely see her head and what I believe is one of her hands. MOO, of course.
     
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    Some networks have better footage than others so don't give up on seeing the child in the carrier.
     
  13. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, which video are you referring to please.
     
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  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Hell there isn’t just “something off here,” the whole damn thing is “off.”

    I’ve seen some baffling cases, but this is a whole different kind of baffling.

    We don’t even know basic details about the victim and her “fiancé.”
     
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    Last public sighting of KB entering Safeway ( and carrying her child in car seat).
     
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    This baffles me greatly. I don’t think we know if that’s the case (that PF hasn’t allowed a visit between grandmother and grandchild), but how could we surmise anything else especially after CB’s interview with The Today show. The reporter specifically asked CB if she had intentions to visit with her granddaughter. CB’s response seemed very controlled, almost to the point of attempting to appear not controlling, to appear unworried .....CB basically stated that she was unsure if a visit would occur at this time. My feeling is that this statement was planned/staged with LE. If not....simply odd!
     
  17. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah. She very well may have been coached on what to say, or she was simply doing it on her own.

    She may want to keep communication open with him.

    Calling him out would have the opposite effect.

    Rock. Hard place.
     
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    On those shows everything is planned in advance. Only certain questions allowed. They have loose scripts. Sometimes Not loose scripts.
     
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    Repeat response deleted
     
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  20. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Wut?
     
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