CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #8

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  1. Marli61

    Marli61 Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 57m57 minutes ago
    But she saw no one on Thanksgiving Day #KelseyBerreth @KOAA
    Exited to add: The way I read this she didn't see the truck or him on TG Day.
     


  2. KSinMT

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    They are hopefully going through as much video footage as possible between Woodland Park and Gooding ID. There's probably a lot to cover though... I'm sure it's no easy task.
     
  3. GoJacks

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    She went into Safeway at 12:05Pm according to the security camera

    she lived 1.4~ miles away from safeway. my phone tells me this is like a 4 minute drive.
    so a decently quick trip into safeway. depending on if he got there at 12:30 or closer to 1:00pm.
     
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  4. otto

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    That's a bit confusing. She saw the red trunk between 12:30 and 1PM on Thanksgiving, but she saw no one?

    I guess what she is saying is that she saw the boyfriend's red truck but can't say who was driving or who left at 1PM
     
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    ZsaZsa Well-Known Member

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    She entered the store at 12.05.
     
  6. moonlessnight

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    totally agree. I think they are all scared of what he may do to the child, yet there is no legal way to get the baby at this time. they need to get that baby NOW.

     
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    It is important that PF is "cooperating" with LEO, but not necessarily being forthcoming in his timeline, or other items to assist LEO.

    If he had nothing to hide, and a definite alibi, LEO could move forward to other solutions to the disappearance.
     
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    For me it was the size of the enclosure. It puts your dog at risk, and there were several times the dog was trampled. Additionally, one of the dogs was a strong heeler, it was too aggressive and that's a sign of an aggressive person who trained it.
     
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  9. GoJacks

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    maybe she was leaving her place around that time, saw the truck parked outside. when she got home or whatever later it was gone?
     
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  10. Gunslinging Granny

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    If you saw the photos from the helicopter or drone on the first day of the ranch search, there were numerous vehicles on the ranch. One of them was not a truck. It looked like a 4 door Toyota. It doesn't mean anything that Patrick's bright red truck wasn't seen at the duplex on Thanksgiving. He may have driven another vehicle.
     
  11. True!
     
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  12. Lhughessk

    Lhughessk Bounty. The quicker picker-upper and hitlist-maker

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    Not sure how much stock I put in the neighbor’s statement. Eyewitness testimony is unreliable, especially when you consider that at least 10 days passed before this neighbor would have had any cause to think back to Thanksgiving, since no one knew she was missing. And once he started trying to remember, how is he going to reliably remember dates and times?
     
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    There are enough of them everywhere. As we should all know by now.
     
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    It seems odd that she would take the child to Safeway only to rush home and exchange her with PF. As a parent, I avoided taking my children to the grocery store like the plague! Why wouldn't she wait to go shopping until after the exchange? This makes it appear there was never a plan to do an exchange that day.
     
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    Think there's any chance that yes, his truck was there and they were all 3 in one of her vehicles? Would LE already have done a thorough investigation into traces of anything in her vehicles?
     
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    A few of those cars did not look to be in working order IMO.
     
  17. Hard to believe that the only way to solve this .... is to ask PF

    Maybe it is
     
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  18. Jennifer17

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    Unless Safeway closed early because of Thanksgiving.
     
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    I think LE needs to search that vehicle, and any others on that property that he had access to using.
     
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  20. moonlessnight

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    I get the feeling PF was not allowed to move off the "ranch" to go live with KB.
     
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