Discussion in '2010's Missing' started by GuyfromCanada, Dec 3, 2018.
Could be. Like a 1 year old is going to have any input into a tree.
Kelsey Berreth: Police Search Fiancé’s Ranch In Hunt For Missing Colorado Mom
SABBM from above article:
Kelsey and Frazee do not live together and don’t have a wedding date, Berreth told NBC. “The relationship has been good. They’re loving,” she said. “It hasn’t been ideal, you know, given the economy and things. They had plans that haven’t worked out as they would have liked. But they’ve dealt with that and they’ve made things work regardless.”
Berreth said the couple was planning to find a home of their own, but Frazee’s job as a cattle farmer had been impacted by poor prices.
These references to financial stressors in KB and PF's relationship are quite concerning, IMO.
I do very much wonder whether KB received child support from PF and if so, whether this was an informal arrangement or if it was court-ordered.
I feel they were broken up long ago. The fiance stuff is all for appearance IMO.
I would bet money that she did not receive child support and that it was an informal arrangement. I think that she thought that they were still together and would marry sometime, but he had different plans.
If he were really needed on the farm, couldn't they have at least put a Doublewide Mobile home on the property a little off to itself, so they could have been together as a family and had some privacy. That is provided that they still wanted to be a family.
Exactly....or even remember the experience!
To be fair, a lot of days my relationship with my wife is little more than handing off the kids - and we all live together relatively happily.
Wonder why they do not show footage of her leaving Safeway??
how does that reporter make a list to go to the store? How do you get info like that so incredibly convoluted. now no one knows what the neighbor actually meant.
CO - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #8
For whatever reason, I delayed listening to Kelsey’s mother’s interviews until now. I was surprised at some of her comments because they fly directly in the face of what many on here are saying. Unless mom is totally in the dark or else lying her tail off, the relationship has been “good” and “strong”. At one point she says Kelsey “had no issues in her life.”
That really doesn’t sound like the relationship was done, or even on the rocks. At least, not from Kelsey’s family point of view.
is it true that texts were sent from KB's phone after her mom called PF? and the Idaho ping was the same day? I didn't realize that timeline. Verrrry suspicious. Did he think he was in the clear until KB's mom called him? Then he decides he has to do something to throw people off? Did he think no one would notice or care?
I think that it was informal as well. If he put his name on the birth certificate, he would be presumed to be the father, and it would have been up to them to pursue a custody agreement. If the baby was with the dad during working days, he would be saving day care expenses and also be providing food and other necessities. Sounds like she had a good job and could handle her end just fine.
Perhaps the end goal was for PF and KB to purchase PF's moms home, but with the economy and things it wasn't working out how they had planned.
OMG you'd be surprized! LOL!
if the break up was the trigger for whatever happened to KB, there is ample reason for the family and LE not to rub salt in the wounds of a man who has the baby. Appeasing PF's perception that KB was still loving is very tactical in protecting the baby.
Mom was far, far away. She only knew what Kelsey told her. I think that Kelsey was probably trying to please her mother, and keep her from worrying.
Same! I've though about that a lot tonight...
No, the texts were sent on 11/25. kB’s mom spoke with KF on 12/2 IIRC
BBM. I discount that, because her brother is with a man in a same sex marriage and her mother does not seem to have a problem with that.