Still Missing CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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  1. Jo in Calif

    Jo in Calif Well-Known Member

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    Been following the whole time. Bout to put an offer in on that house prosecution is building, starting to sound pretty sound from the foundation up.
    Defense needs to get out of the building trade.
     


  2. StarryStarryNight

    StarryStarryNight Well-Known Member

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    In and out, but I am here!
     
  3. gsleuth

    gsleuth waiting for justice for victims

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    Same here..keep thinking about her..unaware of what he was about to do to her. :(

    Justice for Kelsey..Baby K and Kelsey's family.
     
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  4. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I doubt he could have climbed that high carrying a heavy tote. I meant human help.

    Imo
     
  5. lindaromas

    lindaromas Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Gardner! Is this where he went in and out 11 times? Each time holding the baby?
     
  6. Tippy Lynn

    Tippy Lynn Well-Known Member

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    Good morning :D
    haha.....
     
  7. Gardenista

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    IIRC, we learned several months ago that he used a fork loader.
     
  8. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Not each time. He wasn't seen with the baby again until 4:20 and then each time after that for the next ten minutes he was seen without carrying the baby with his back to the camera.

    Imo
     
  9. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    (Same here, all this ^^^^.)
     
  10. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    NOV 6, 2019
    Patrick Frazee murder trial enters 4th day
    The murder trial of Patrick Frazee is entering its fourth day in Teller County Wednesday morning.

    [...]

    Sean Frazee, the defendant's brother, testified that he and his siblings are still in a legal battle for their late father's assets with an estimated value of $400,000.

    Combine that with documents seized from the Frazee Ranch showing Patrick essentially defaulted on a $70,000 loan, and other papers showing a possible custody arrangement, a picture emerges of money problems.

    [...]
     
  11. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but I think it was also described as a tractor at one point. Imo
     
  12. Medstudies

    Medstudies Well-Known Member

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    Just jumping in to point out that PF lied to federal agents... and to KB...his friends (about his relationship with KB) to her family, his family and Doss Aviation.

    and what’s that? HE has an agenda: life in prison. custody. He has far more to lose than she does.

    And obviously my post here is a pointless effort.

    Back to lurking

    #justiceforKelsey #justiceforherfamily #justiceforsociety
     
  13. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Reposting: NOV 4, updated NOV 5, 2019
    Woodland Park Verizon store employee describes interaction with Frazee on Dec. 11
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    On Nov. 22, the bedroom camera had 27 notifications throughout the day. There were a lot around the late 11 o’clock hour, often around noon, and more around 1:20 p.m. Then there were more again around 4:20-4:30 p.m. An investigator with the 4th Judicial DA's office was able to extract 34 cached file images from Nov. 22, 2018. 27 of those came from the bedroom camera (the same number of notifications Jackson got from that camera). Of those 27, the cameras caught Frazee 11 different times.

    The images show a photo appearing to be Berreth entering her home with a baby carrier at 3:54 a.m. (Nov. 22). That aligns with her getting home. Another photo shows a cat passing by. Another photo that day at 11:56 a.m. shows Berreth at her door. A different photo shows Frazee at 12:36 p.m. looking to enter Berreth's home. That’s the first spot of him. The second photo is at 12:37 p.m. His back is to the camera.

    Photos then show the door open at 1:23 p.m. and again at 1:23. The photo picks up Frazee, Kelsey Berreth, and Kaylee. It's the last photo of Kelsey. Another photo picks up Frazee outside again at 1:24 p.m. The next is at 4:20 p.m. and shows Frazee holding Kaylee. He’s captured again on the camera at 4:24 p.m. with his back to the camera, no child. He’s captured again at 4:26, holding Kaylee with his back to camera. Frazee is captured again at 4:27, back to the camera and holding the child. Next capture shows the door open at 4:28. Next capture shows Frazee at 4:28 with his back to the camera. Next cached image is the 10th time Frazee is captured on surveillance. This is at 4:29. His back is to the camera. 11th capture of Frazee is at 4:30 with his back to the camera again.

    [...]
     
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  14. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Remembering Cupcake

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    I'm not sure what you are asking when you say "where" but PF was seen on camera at KB's condo with the baby 4 times. But one of those 4 times was with KB in the picture too and it doesn't specify who was holding Baby K (incidentally, that is the last photo ever taken of KB). So PF was seen alone and holding Baby only 3 times out of the 11 times the camera caught his image outside KB's condo. (This is based on the timeline from Sam's notes: Still Missing - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59 )

    MOO.
     
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  15. Simply Southern

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    DBM
     
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  16. BUF

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    Question: that meeting he had with his brother at 5Guys when CBI showed up and he told him to hand his phone over...how did CBI know he was there...followed him or tipped off?
     
  17. girlhasnoname

    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    I was confident of a conviction even before the trial started, now I'm convinced of one, even without KK's testimony. This somehow makes me feel better.

    "I see the triumph of good over evil as a manifestation of the error-correcting process of evolution."

    Jonas Salk
     
  18. DigitalxDream

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    Just chiming in on the camera system... I believe its Arlo, the same that I have. Sometimes when there is fast movement, like a jogger, cyclist or speed car, it'll trigger the camera to record and send a notification, but by the time it starts recording, the movement has already happened and nothing is captured. So I think all of the triggers is pretty relevant, just frustrating because they don't always capture something.
     
  19. Elliot_Alderson

    Elliot_Alderson Well-Known Idiot

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    Wow, I didn't even know this trial had started! Talk about out of the loop. Glad to be here with you fine folks.
     
  20. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Glad you made it. We're about to begin day four and it may be a humdinger! MOO
     
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