Still Missing CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #62

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  1. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    Well said.

    And if Radar could channel his thoughts on such, he's howling in despair that the Kenny-Lee raised a dog that was given to her by him. A dog that the family loved, they shared their secrets with while growing up as children do (what manipulation, that perhaps KK hugged the dog thinking of PF).... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr says Radar.
     
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    Safeguard Well-Known Member

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    Thats incredibly accurate. I take it you've crossed paths with some of these goblins...
     
  3. Jo in Calif

    Jo in Calif Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be a bombshell if the defenses witness is Patrick.
    He says that it was all KK's idea to kill Kelsey, he knew that KK was pg and wanted her to keep the baby, she did put the drugs in the coffee KB just didn't drink it, KK knew KB was dead and she would clean up the crime scene.
    What in the hell would happen if he did that, knows his goose is cooked and will try and bring KK down with him.
    That would be a hell of a crack. Wishful thinking.
     
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    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Moore said he could only hear what Frazee was saying — not what the person on the other line was saying. He said they were discussing horses.

    “If I get arrested — because they’ve taken my phone — I’m going to have my friend here call you and it will be from this phone number so come and get these horses,” Frazee said over the phone, according to Moore.
    This part of Moore's testimony just jumped out. We know Taking care of horses,or looking at horses was code between KK,and PF for murder. Is this where more conspiracy/Solicitation charges come in? So PF had other horses, um (Hits) to take out. Kelsey's meddling mom,and brother perhaps. They sure we're putting major kinks in his master plan.
    MOO.
     
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  5. lindaromas

    lindaromas Well-Known Member

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    Intelligent with NO common sense! I had a great uncle who was a doctor and was like that. He was the most bazaar man I had every met up until now. He retained information like no other, but to put that information to logical use........never happened.
     
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    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I'll help post bail....go for it...for the team....please. :):cool::)
     
  7. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    That is such a long time to wait for the next jaw dropping moments.:(:(:(
    Guess we'll have to catch up on all our chores in the next few days, to be able to be glued to WS.
    My dog will get so many walks over those days, to make up for the previous missed times, when her owner was glued to the screen.
    She was probably planning her escape, to find a better home.
     
  8. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    With all of the evidence he knew was coming, I still cannot figure out why he did not just plead guilty vs. having all of this come out.

    Christopher Watts/Jodi Arias mixture?

    Is he doing this trial and testimony just to shame KK for turning him in, and having his defense rake some folks across the coals with unknown information when the defense gets up for their turn? That's what is a conundrum for me. I am leaning that he has something on someone that he wants to punish them with that is still living.

    SMH, I just cannot for the life of me figure out why he didn't want to hide all of this, to let his good friends shame him worldwide without having some type of revenge (In his mind)

    SMH and *scratching my head* as luckily I guess, I cannot get into his head.

    MOO
     
  9. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Sorry. I think the meat of KK's testimony is over and she did not violate the intent of the plea agreement. I'm surprised to read so much "gotcha moment" speculation." If KK said blue instead of red -- they're still not throwing her deal out.

    Just the same, KK added more details to her testimony not previously disclosed but remains in compliance with the agreement. Similar pleas agreements are made daily -- we just don't read about them. Also, KK had a very fine team representing her from the get-go. She owes them her life. MOO
     
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  10. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    For the opening statements, the prosecution and the defense were limited to one hour (defense taking less than 10 minutes though)

    I do hope the timing for the closings are much longer as we now have seen such a story emerge.
     
  11. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I'd say PF believes his own lies: no body, no case. It's that simple for him.
     
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    Here’s a trick I stumbled across - you can highlight the post and then click the “speak” button so you can listen to WS !
     

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  13. dixiegirl1035

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    He could be roomies with Chris Watts, and live his life (without parole) with him happily ever after as they each have met their *aspired goals*
     
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  14. dixiegirl1035

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    I give him the benefit of the doubt that he took notes in April when it happened first. I'm thinking when this down, he sat down and took notes as this was the first MSM mention of such. He wanted to note it all prior to talking to atty/LE?
     
  15. Megnut

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    Do we think PF was planning to have KK take the baby?

    We know PF has only one criterion for woman, can they be controlled. He had a pru good hold on KK.... What WAS his end game?

    He actually thought he could go to the townhouse, blindfold KB with a sweater, and take her out with one clean blow. Then what? Take her body, her baby and her phone but leave her car? Nobody'd find that odd and investigate? Couple of days, it'd all be forgotten? And he was what, going to raise a GIRL baby on his own? With what for money? With what for daycare? Did he think KB's family would just shrug and move on, and not want custody/visitation? Is he ABLE to string two thoughts together?

    My heart breaks for KB's family, for every painful minute they live without her in it.

    MOO
     
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    Great (with sarcasm)! He was concerned enough to take notes?? BUT not to call LE so they could set up a sting and take him down BEFORE he murdered Kelsey?

    Notes!! I didn't catch that yesterday. Now I'm just utterly appalled :mad:
     
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    my windows laptop doesn't offer that option. maybe i'd need some kind of text to voice extension installed. wish i did though. be nice for the long messages.
     
  18. MsBetsy

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    Yeah, I suggested something like that before the trial started, wondering what would happen if PF testified and said that KK did it, but I was assured by everyone that it would never happen.

    Imo
     
  19. tmar

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    I think I remember an attorney leaving, if anyone can provide any info on that.:):)
    Can you imagine, if this was the reason that the attorney left, what his last words were to the jerk?
    MOO.
     
  20. oviedo

    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    Me too
     
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