Still Missing CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #65

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  1. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    Will be interesting conversation at the Frazee
    T'giving dinner this year.
     
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    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering with the family dynamic, who all would go??
    JMO
     
  3. Medstudies

    Medstudies Peace out sleuths.

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    Oh that was just a momentary- “what if” truth is stranger than fiction thing.

    I’ve been in camp “he is going down” since thread 1.

    And I don’t really believe we are wrong
     
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    jakat Well-Known Member

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    To beat Kelsey to death with such force is rage. He is evil. Son of Satan. I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life behind bars and never sees the sun again.
     
  5. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    You’d be surprised. Sometimes a person can die just hitting their head with a minor fall. Sometimes they can be beaten repeatedly in the head with major force and it takes a while. It depends on angle, etc.

    Someone posted an example here of a woman who survived after being beaten with a bat or hammer (I can’t recall) and suffering her head being crushed, jaw bashed in, disfiguring injuries, eye socket broken and displaced, etc.

    She was beaten repeatedly.

    By the mention of blood everywhere I have always suspected Kelsey was trying to get away as he beat her to death.

    But I also thought the state expert in the Jodi Arias trial got it wrong. I think she shot him in the head in the shower with a 22 and it didn’t kill him. So he staggered out and she began stabbing him. Still didn’t kill him so he crawled down the hallway and she slit his throat.

    People who hunt know a 22 to the head doesn’t always kill a deer that quickly or even at all sometimes.

    Neither do blows with heavy objects. Often but not always.

    I think Kelsey struggled to get away and kept trying to crawl as he beat her like a rat he was trying to kill. Based on comments he made to KK even he seemed surprised it was as hard to kill her that way as it was.

    Her comment “Please stop” is similar to other comments I’ve heard that people suddenly attacked and dying make. “Oh, oh, oh.” “Why?” “No!” “Hey! Hey!” “What are you doing?” “Don’t” “Help me.” “Call 911” “I love you.”

    I think the first blow hurt badly and gave her a serious head injury but it took a while to kill her and she tried to save herself.

    It’s appalling.
     
  6. GordianKnot

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    I'm thinking it's a safe bet that SF2 won't be invited to Thanksgiving dinner at the franch.

    And if I were him, if he IS invited, I wouldn't drink the coffee.

    Something tells me the Borgias ain't got nothin' on this family.

    Just saying.
     
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  7. ajaylee

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    I wonder if the defense is going to have any questions for this witness.
     
  8. TrialLurking

    TrialLurking Thankful for another day

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    Also, some individuals knew beforehand that he was looking to end her life, but they never let her or LE know. May they hear what this monster did knowing that they could have done something. I am just sick over that. SMH
     
  9. enelram

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    yeah, and I'm glad LE got all the bats from the Franch.
     
  10. yawningreyhound

    yawningreyhound Well-Known Member

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    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    CC " Please pass the crow,and some gravy to wash it down".
     
  12. Yellow Rose

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  13. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be?

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    I wonder if people now finally believe the state had enough evidence and a finely honed case to take to trial. Quite a few nerves before the case really got underway. And it's only been 2 weeks!
     
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    gngr~snap Verified Professional Pediatric Nurse

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    That's a surprise to me. My son has a substantial life insurance policy through his work and has a baby and they live with him, but he cannot list anyone who is not a relative and since they aren't married he listed me and will change it when they get married.
    Moo
     
  15. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    No. It’s has to be more prejudicial than probative (evidentiary value proving something).

    Just because it’s gruesome and badly hurts the defendant’s case doesn’t mean it can’t be used.
     
  16. susiQ

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    And this is what is so very disturbing. He's sitting there enjoying watching her poor, poor father having to listen to this. He's beyond sick. He is utterly inhuman. There are not words in the English language to describe him. Sick to the nth degree.
     
  17. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    I do remember MsJosie, but can't remember which one also!
     
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    Good grief.

    Does PF not have a working brain cell in his head???
     
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  20. Yellow Rose

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    Patrick just cooked his own GOOSE. I mean turkey.
     
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