GUILTY CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #68

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  1. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can add one directly from a PF quote:

    "No Body, No Crime".......WRONG Patrick if you haven't figured that out by now :)
     


  2. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Once the evidence came out, people knowing PF in the past, will stay clear of him, knowing of his hit list, involving even his friends.
     
  3. GoJacks

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    I agree but seeing as it’s a small community, I’d venture to guess a lot of their names are already out there.

    And I guarantee he has “someone” who has/or will tell him their names.

    Ol’ ma


    has to be scary for them.
     
  4. afitzy

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    Yes, 'own goal' concept is scoring a point/s for the other team.

    Defense scored one for the Prosecution, generally not how games and court cases are typically won.

    Generally NOT a good idea and sports fans really hate it too - sometimes they even BOO!
     
  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    PF also had the ranch hands cover up the burn area or scorched earth, and I believe that was part of the elk horn alibi.

    Also, we learned yesterday that Investigators are still looking for KB's remains including searching old abandoned mining shafts -- of which there are many in Colorado. MOO
     
  6. BeckyF

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    I'm all good with analogies but thanks for the concern.
     
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  7. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I think the closest I can come to understanding what the legal team and investigative team go through is finals week every week for a year, x two, with the added burden that life and death are at stake (in a sense) if you don’t study and prepare well enough.

    We can’t fathom what these folk go through.
     
  8. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I think it is a great description. The defense put out an argument that actually scored points for the prosecution. They literally kicked the ball into the wrong net, and scored on their own goal.
     
  9. Mom24

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    And given that that the person who carried out the hit list was supposed to call SF to tell her the job was done, I can't imagine any court giving any credence to her custody suit.
     
  10. mustloveco

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    Here’s another good word for how the jury looked:

    Fearless.
     
  11. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Most definitely. What an idgit! :rolleyes: MOO
     
  12. SuziQ

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    So do we know the circumstances surrounding PF's father's death?

    Just saying......
     
  13. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    And who can forget "BOO!" Columbian style:

    Colombia had entered the 1994 World Cup among the favorites to win it all, led by star goalie Carlos "El Pibe" Valderrama and forward Faustino Asprilla. But then the unthinkable happened. The squad lost 3-1 to Romania, midfielder Gabriel Gomez received a faxed death threat and the coach contemplated resigning.

    But the worst was still to come. Defender Andres Escobar, known as "The Gentleman of the Field," accidentally put the ball in his own net in a game against the U.S., contributing to Colombia's rapid exit from the Cup and a massive national disappointment.

    Ten days later, the 27-year-old Escobar was shot dead in a Medellin parking lot in a killing that sparked national outrage.

    Murder of soccer player after own-goal 20 years ago still resonates in Colombia
     
  14. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Not really. Own goals are a big deal. Especially in soccer (my favorite sport).

    In the 1994 FIFA World Cup an own goal was scored by the Colombian team. My father in law was at the match and immediately said, “He’s dead.” And he was. He was murdered for it. (Betting is a big part of the game for many).

    This case was a game to PF. The planning. The murder. The cover up. The trial. The attempt to have witnesses assassinated.

    And that last attempt was the equivalent of an own goal.
     
  15. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Jinx girl!!
     
  16. afitzy

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    Yes! That one was unforgettable and drives this point home!
     
  17. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Poor baby. I think she’s in a landfill and much like Jhessye Shockley and Abby Blagg. So hard to find.
     
  19. afitzy

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    @Seattle1, I read the articles about the ongoing searches for remains by LE and am puzzled.

    I'm trying to understand the reasoning to do this ongoing searching if the KB body was in the tote and burned?

    Is the theory that the body was not intact?

    MOO
     
  20. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Nice. I’m impressed. Seem like real down to earth people and I’m glad they didn’t find it at all hard to convict one of their own. They saw what he really was and the state said they were super attentive.

    I can only imagine how hard that was.
     
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