GUILTY CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #69

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  1. skyedaze

    skyedaze Well-Known Member

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    He's cruel. He likes to inflict pain. He wanted to beat the snot out of a person and KB was the unlucky winner.
     


  2. skyedaze

    skyedaze Well-Known Member

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    DANG!...beat me to it, lol!;):p
     
  3. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Another monster that is inadequate, is KK.
    I am pleased, there are now videos of her, going through evidence.
    People in her home town, her family, friends, workmates will see these, and this will be embedded in their minds: they were in contact with a monster.
    Hope KK's life, continues to follow a downward trend, continually.
     
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    dixiegirl1035 Godspeed, STAY AT HOME. Be connected when isolated

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    Gotcha, thanks. This is what you were referring to I see now.

    "1:29 a.m.: Berreth’s phone called Frazee’s phone and it connected for 20 seconds. Her phone was in Divide and his was in Florissant.
    -1:35 a.m.: Frazee’s landline called Kenney’s cell phone. It went to voicemail.
    -1:42 a.m.: Berreth’s phone called Frazee’s cell. The call lasted four minutes. Berreth was in Woodland Park and Frazee was still in Florissant"

    .. which does time coincide with when Kelsey was going to get Tummy medicine.
     
  5. skyedaze

    skyedaze Well-Known Member

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    His tummy didn't feel good..and he needed to ditch KB for a while cuz he had to discuss the plan with KK. She knew. Sorry, but she knew. I think he was going to shoot her out in a field while "checking on cattle" and try to make it look like she killed herself. But he wussed out or KB talk to her mom and plan A was wrecked. So he called KK and plan B went into motion.
    Next call to KK...you got have mess to clean up.
    She knew.
    JMHO
     
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    Aydrianna523 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes!
     
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  7. Kapua

    Kapua Well-Known Member

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    I think she has Tourette syndrome; my friend has it. It's involuntary. (I'm not excusing her for her heinous actions.)
     
  8. Aydrianna523

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    Stomach issues? But that wouldn't account for the tic. I guess I'm going with anxiety driven tic too.
     
  9. Aydrianna523

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    Would she have stopped medicine to get sympathy?
     
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    Kapua Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I don't know if LE would have stepped up (I prefer to think yes, they would have), but she should have made the call - the FIRST time he asked her to kill KB!!!
    The other person who should have been notified is KB!!! Someone should have clued her in. And I'm looking at you, JM, as well as KKL. Looking at that pic of her with the poinsettia plant, baby K, and that monster at the door of her condo breaks my heart! She's walking into a horror movie, unaware of what that sub-human had planned. MOO
     
  11. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I initially thought the same thing, as that’s the only way to make sense of the statement “you have a mess to clean up.” I was harping on that for months.

    The evidence doesn’t show that KK knew though, and seems to indicate the opposite.

    Everything she did after that phone call was reactionary, from switching shifts, to her friend initiating the vehicle switch.

    If she knew that the murder was to take place that day, I would have expected preparations to have been made.

    I also would have expected the defense to attack her on this. That didn’t happen though.

    In addition, one of the terms of her deal was that if the prosecution found evidence that she knew ahead of time, the deal would be off. Apparently they didn’t find anything.

    So I’m strongly leaning no on this.
     
  12. Kapua

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    I have no idea, but I don't think anyone feels sorry for her. MOO
     
  13. Aydrianna523

    Aydrianna523 Well-Known Member

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    Drugs...plausible explanation.
     
  14. Kapua

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    Coke is expensive. KKL can't even afford to touch up her roots. MOO
     
  15. Warwick7

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    I believe this also!
     
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    Originally I would completely agree with you and I could be off base here. Now that I see there was a phone call made to KK from PF before the murder, I kind of wonder if somethings were omitted for the plea deal. If you think about it, there could be more evidence that was omitted from the deal... LE needed her to come forward and from MOO she has a heck of an Attorney. Did some research when this first started, she's quite something. I'll be interested to see more of the discovery docs that come out even more from her case. The quote from Dan May, "We made a deal with the Devil" makes me think there is way more we haven't been privy to. We know she hasn't been honest and it's possible that she did know and maybe 'didn't believe him still' (ridiculous as it may sound). She has great representation to get her plea deal down to 3 years max from 144 years max IMO.
     
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    Reminder for tonight --

    48 Hours on CBS...

    SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 23 | 10/9c
    Justice for Kelsey Berreth
    An inside look at the startling evidence that helped convict against Colorado man Patrick Frazee for the murder of his fianceé. CBS News' Nikki Battiste reports.
     
  18. skyedaze

    skyedaze Well-Known Member

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    ok fair enough...but she still knew KB was to be killed. Maybe just not exactly when.
     
  19. skyedaze

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    SAME!!!!
     
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  20. skyedaze

    skyedaze Well-Known Member

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    Guilt driven
    JMHO
     
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